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Excellent presentation...

Re: "t Vernal Point / Sun = What this day brings me in public..."

I couldn't help but notice that, for my wife at our wedding, (h64)

t Vernal Point / Sun = Node / MC (0° 1')

From my chart, at my wedding, (h64)

t Vernal Point / Sun = Moon (0° 0') = Jupiter / MC (0° 0')

I am very much enjoying pouring over various events with my own collection of charts/events and am seeing a congruence between what you are presenting with the out of sample charts/events, with which I am testing your methods...

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I wanted to give another example and show that it can be very helpful for controlling some birth times.

Chaplin, Charles

16 April 1889 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM )
15 April 1889 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM
London, England, 51n30, 0w10

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Chaplin,_Charles


Harmonic 64

Radix : 16 April 1889 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM )

Aries Point = ME/MA = JU


Aries Point : In public
ME/MA = JU : Happy entertainment ; Laughing. ( Rulebook for Planetary Pictures, page 223, German version)


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Harmonic 64

Radix : 15 April 1889 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM )

Aries Point ≠ ME/MA ≠ JU

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We can say with certainty that he was born 16 April, not 15 April.
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Historic : Lethal Injection

6 December 1982 at 00:09 (= 12:09 AM )Huntsville, Texas, 30n43, 95w33

American execution for the first time by lethal injection. Charlie Brooks, an inmate of the prison sentenced to death for his crime of murder was given the injection at this time and was pronounced dead at 00:16 AM.

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hi ... _Injection


Natal (Harmonic 256) at 00:09

t WI/SU (in this moment public) = MA/KR (state violence) = MA/ZE (injection) = NE (poison)
MA/ZE (injection) : This meaning of MA/ZE is mine (hamburg school has no formula for injection.)
MA/KR (state violence) : According to hamburg school

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Transit (Harmonic 4096) at 00:16

t WI/SU = r MA/SA

t WI/SU = 0° 5' 11''
r MA/SA = 0° 5' 11''

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Re: "Thank you, Atlantean,

I am very pleased that someone is checking my claims and posting them publicly, which is very rare in astrology forums."

You are welcome... It either works or it doesn't...there are no other criteria in evaluating techniques. ie. I'm open to all approaches that are reliable and informative.

I noticed that we are both "foreigners" living in Germany. (You in Stuttgart, while I am in Munich)

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Atlantean wrote: It either works or it doesn't...there are no other criteria in evaluating techniques. ie. I'm open to all approaches that are reliable and informative.
That is exactly my approach to the techniques. If it works, I use it, if it doesn't, I don't use it, no matter which astrological school.
I noticed that we are both "foreigners" living in Germany. (You in Stuttgart, while I am in Munich)
You are right. We are both foreigners in Germany. I've lived in Germany for 30 years and before the Corona times I felt at home. Now it feels very unfamiliar to me.
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Re: "Now it feels very unfamiliar to me."

Yes, with all the covid restrictions and a few other side-factors, it *feels* like the hammers are coming again. (fascism of one form or another, since all the pieces are falling into place (again)) Munich is the largest city that I've been in, that still feels like it's rather an over-grown town...

I've been here since 2005, though visited here many times between 1999 and 2005. My Wife is German and we have 3 kids. I'm doing IT work for the school system. That's my job, though my calling is closer to things we've been discussing.

Re: Techniques

I couldn't agree more... try it and if it's reliable and informative, then use it. (no matter where it comes from)

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Atlantean wrote:(fascism of one form or another, since all the pieces are falling into place (again))
I am surprised, disappointed and frustrated by so many people who take absurd and inhumane measures for granted and go along with them.
I had to keep reminding myself and admitting to Einstein that he was right when he said that :
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but I'm not quite sure about the universe yet."
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Yes... if one measures the money spent and looks at the results, it often appears man is at his most creative, or expends his most effort, when thinking of abominable things to do to his fellow man. No matter who is in charge, there is WAR. (often undeclared, but war nonetheless)

Thank you for the quote... relevant in all times, it seems.

Curious where this goes, but I think Orwell's vision of the future ("a boot stamping on a human face forever") is not too far off. Anyone even asking questions against the GROUP-THINK, are ridiculed, doxxed, attacked, etc.

It's Plato's &$%§* Cave in 2021!. Everyone is believing the phony images projected on the cave walls (lamestream media) and no one seems to want to get out of the cave. (leave the Matrix)

The few (though more every day) that are seeing through the illusion become targets... as the system attempts top-down control in a way that would make Adolph Hitler blush!

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Atlantean wrote:there is WAR.
It is worse than war. It is the greatest crime against humanity the world has ever seen. In a war, people unite and show solidarity against the external enemy. At this time, however, in every country, people see the other as a potential danger. The enemy has everywhere, media, judiciary, medicine, universities, and stately power under its command. It will lead to slavery if things continue as they are. Therefore, something must be done to stop this insanity.

It will lead to slavery if things continue as they are.

I hope I am not wrong and MA/JU and JU/UR show their positive side in 2023 to end this insanity.

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