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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:46 am    Post subject: Capricorn-Ingress 2023 Reply with quote

Capricorn-Ingress 2023

JU/UR = CU/SA = SA/PL = MA/AP = AP/PO = HA/KR = MN/KR = SA/HA = UR/KR = SU = ZE = Ariespoint

HA/KR = Ariespoint : unsuccessful conspiracy (according to Rulebook for the Planetary Pictures)

SA/MN = SA/CU = SA/PL : suppressed, forbidden contacts, MA/AP = AP/PO = UR/JU = SU = ZE : will be restored, allowed.

I think in 2023 the corona measures that are being implemented right now by almost all governments will be repealed. When you see the planets that are above, SU,MA,JU,UR,AP at the Aries point, I think there is hope.


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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi, let's hope that your prediction is correct!

I always thought that it is the tropical Capricorn ingress that is significant because it marks the autumnal equinox? The sidereal Capricorn ingress is just another solar ingress, but all 12 solar ingresses are significant for the month in question. I've found that these sidereal ingresses can clearly mark earthquake months for relevant locations on earth. (The Lahiri ayanamsa doesn't work for these ingresses, only Krishnamurti works.)
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope so too, Therese.
I take what works with the practical examples using my method, leave out what does not work. I have used Capricorn Ingress with transits in my work " Alfred Witte's Kronos - Earthquakes". The transits to the ingress, although they took place almost at the end of the year e.g. November , have always shown earthquake events.

Therese Hamilton wrote:
The sidereal Capricorn ingress is just another solar ingress, but all 12 solar ingresses are significant for the month in question.

Are there any examples of this here in Skyscript ?
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi, just as an experiment, could you test the Capricorn tropical ingress for the Haiti quake? It's the solstice date that is said to be important, not the tropical sign of Capricorn which I don't think exists. The siderealists of the Fagan school also place the greatest emphasis on the sidereal Capricorn ingress, but of course their ayanamsa is off.

Several years ago I had an earthquake topic here on Skyscript. I have to go back and post the charts that have been erased. Then I'll post the link here. For now, here is the Cancer ingress for the Haiti quake. The Cancer ingress is in the center of the bi-wheel; the quake is the outer ring. (Notes below) EDIT: The original EST quake chart has been replaced with the correct EDT chart.



Of course when we’re working with planetary positions as they appear actually appear in the sky, we can’t expect the precision to the second of harmonics. I take a three degree orb to the angles as reasonable. I’ve usually found that the solar ingress chart shows the quake more clearly than the quake itself.

According to siderealists of the Fagan school, only the angles are significant in charts. I also add aspects to the angles within three degrees. In the Cancer ingress chart the relevant aspect is the 8th house (full aspect) of Mars to Neptune (mythologically the earthshaker) at the MC. We don’t count the 8th house (quincunx) aspect of Venus because that aspect belongs only to Mars according to India’s astrology. Pluto is also sextile Neptune and the MC.

At the time of the quake the Sun has come to the degree of ingress Mars setting off the 8th house aspect to the MC and Neptune. Pluto has retrograded to the degree of the ingress MC with an 8 minute orb.
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therese, I have to correct the time zone you have in the chart for earthquakes because it has to be EDT, not EST.

"At 08:29:09 EDT on 14 August 2021...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Haiti_earthquake
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right!! My old Solar Fire gave me EST. I should have noticed that. But the ingress chart is the same since it's set for zero Cancer. I'll post the corrected chart and notes in my above post with an EDIT correction.
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I show below, the sidereal Capricorn ingress shows the earthquake, not tropical.


Comparison of tropical Capricorn-Ingress with sidereal Capricorn-Ingress

2021 Haiti Earthquake

Tropical Capricorn-Ingress : 21.12.2020 5:02:18 > Cap Sun

Transit : At 8:29:09 a.m. EDT on 14 August 2021 (Harmonic 16)

t MA/SA = -



t SU = r VE/UR




Sidereal Capricorn-Ingress : 13.01.2021 19:35:06 > Cap Sun


Transit : At 8:29:09 a.m. EDT on 14 August 2021 (Harmonic 16)

t MA/SA = t SA/KR = t MO/NE = r MC/KR = r AC/KR




t SU = r SU/KR = MO/PL
t JU/KR = r JU
t JU = r JU/KR


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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know that the tropical ingress may not be significant as it's said to be. I've never researched the topical ingresses.
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed my astrology program, Zet, has also chosen wrong time zone (EST). Of course, the transit AC and MC positions change. Other planetary pictures above post, do not change.

sidereal (Harmonic 16)

t AC/MC = t SU/KR = r AC/UR = r MC/UR


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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, only the Ascendant and MC change. Only a minute or two change for other planets. So the Cancer ingress aspects of Mars (set off by the quake Sun) and Pluto to the MC remain the same. (I have posted the corrected chart above.)

But (If I'm reading your chart correctly...I'm not sure?), isn't it interesting that quake Pluto and Mars conjoin natal Pluto (in the 16th harmonic?), the same planets that aspect the MC in the Cancer ingress chart. I think it would be helpful for those of us unschooled in your methods if you could clearly label the bi-wheels you post by name, inside wheel and transits. Maybe it's obvious and I'm just not seeing it!
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we compare sidereal capricorn ingress with sidereal cancer ingress, I would say both ingresses with secondary progressions show the earthquake.

Harmonic 4096

Secondary (Harmonic 4096)

Capricorn-Ingress

p MA/SA = r MA/SA = r JU/KR = r JU/PL

p MA/SA = 0° 02' 48''
r MA/SA = 0° 02' 50''
r JU/KR = 0° 02' 51''
r JU/PL = 0° 00' 13'' + 0° 02' 38'' = 0° 02' 51''






Cancer-Ingress

Secondary (Harmonic 4096)

p MA/SA = p MA/JU = r MA/SA = r JU/PL

p MA/SA = 0° 02' 16''
p MA/JU = 0° 03' 35'' - 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 16''
r MA/SA = 0° 00' 57'' + 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 16''
r JU/PL = 0° 03' 36'' - 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 17''


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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therese Hamilton wrote:
But (If I'm reading your chart correctly...I'm not sure?), isn't it interesting that quake Pluto and Mars conjoin natal Pluto (in the 16th harmonic?), the same planets that aspect the MC in the Cancer ingress chart. I think it would be helpful for those of us unschooled in your methods if you could clearly label the bi-wheels you post by name, inside wheel and transits. Maybe it's obvious and I'm just not seeing it!


Therese, inner circle with black planets are the radix, outer planets with blue colors are transit planets. I thought it was obvious, sorry for that.
The image does not look as clear as I want it to. Of course Mars and Pluto also important, but I'm mainly concerned to show Sun, Jupiter, Saturn and Kronos, the most important planets in an earthquake.
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2021 Haiti Earthquake

Cancer-Ingress

Harmonic 8

r JU = r SA/KR = r MA/PL

As we see in the radix already JU,SA and KR connection given. And during earthquakes the Sun completes the picture.

t SU/MA = SU/PL = r MA/PL = r SA/KR = r JU
t MA/PL = t KR = r SU/PL


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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi, thank you for checking the Cancer ingress. Can you make your last post the same size as all your others? It's very helpful to see the degrees of planets even though sometimes I have to use a magnifying glass to read them! I think I might be the only person who has been looking at all 12 solar ingresses rather than only the Capricorn ingress. (The Fagan school astrologers use the four main ingresses: Cp/Ar/Cn/Li)

I wasn't clear about my question regarding your charts. I meant (for example) for a 16th harmonic with the natal planets on the inner circle: Are the transiting planets on the outside the 16th harmonic planets? (I assume they are.) I'm something at a loss not being able to see the harmonic degrees of planets. I've never worked with planetary pictures and midpoints and am too old to start now!
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have changed the size of the image, Therese.
Because of the change of the size the picture becomes a bit unclear. I need to find a solution to make the picture clearer.
Yes, the inner circle and outer circle are both same harmonic whenever I post something.
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