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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The nakshatras (lunar mansions) are stars and asterisms in the sky. But you have the names of the mansions aligned with tropical signs, Mark. If the mansions are used in the tropical zodiac, their true sidereal positions have to be given. This can be very instructive, actually, because the tropical signs will reflect the various effects of the actual stars in the mansions. For example, tropical Scorpio has two distinct halves which align with two different star mansions, one with the stars of Libra and the other with stars of Virgo.


I put the chart up simply to accommodate another member who does utilise the tropical zodiac and the Nakshatras ( I think?).

I dont want to sideline this thread into a debate about zodiacs. However, I will say that I am satisfied the Nakshatras are far older than the later Indian fusion of them with a sidereal zodiac.

In astrological terms I would personally want to work with the Nakshatras on a stand alone basis rather than try to merge them with any 12 sign zodiac.

Anyway, I played around with all the Solar Fire chart options and this is the closest to what you are mentioning I can find.

closest coles from my location

For anyone wanting the exact sidereal and tropical boundaries of the Nakshatras check out Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakshatra

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a table of the dates the Tropical Sun lines up with the lunar mansions (nakshatras):
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/amansions.htm

We can see from the table that Ashvini begins about 24 degrees of tropical Aries, not the beginning of tropical Aries. Ashvini runs to 7 degrees of tropical Taurus. I think it's important that astrologers have it clear in their minds that the stars of the mansions are STARS and have to be kept in place in the sky when located in the moving tropical zodiac. We can't move Ashvini to the beginning of tropical Aries, for example.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah All ....

1/ My feelings are that we are moving towards the Nakshastras as the Zodiacal Backdrop.

Working with them has literally blown my Mind.

2/ I think if Rohani was investigated relate to the origins of Cryptos then Things would appear.

It is Commerce !

3/ Anybody noticed that as we run in towards the Eclipse Things begin to get interesting ?

Filling Moon crossing Scorpio ?

BRACE ! BRACE !

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2/ I think if Rohani was investigated relate to the origins of Cryptos then Things would appear.

It is Commerce !


WooWoo, can you please explain how you see Rohini relating to Crypto currency? What planets are involved, and are they conjunct specific stars in the mansion of Rohini??
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

therese is correct.. i guess it means solar fire keeps them the same regardless of which zodiac one uses... technically that is incorrect to do that!
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a table of the dates the Tropical Sun lines up with the lunar mansions (nakshatras):
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/amansions.htm

We can see from the table that Ashvini begins about 24 degrees of tropical Aries, not the beginning of tropical Aries. Ashvini runs to 7 degrees of tropical Taurus. I think it's important that astrologers have it clear in their minds that the stars of the mansions are STARS and have to be kept in place in the sky when located in the moving tropical zodiac. We can't move Ashvini to the beginning of tropical Aries, for example.


Thanks for pointing that out Therese. Its clearly an error in Solar Fire software. The ASC is obviously, in the Nakshatra of Mula irrespective of what zodiac we use! That is correctly, indicated in the table listing on the left.

Anyway, here is the chart with the Lahiri ayanamsha. This has been interesting diversion but I would really like to move back to the focus on this thread. Of course if people have insights to offer on cryptocurrencies using the Nakshatras please go for it!



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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james_m wrote:
therese is correct.. i guess it means solar fire keeps them the same regardless of which zodiac one uses... technically that is incorrect to do that!


And if you fix the error, like I've been requested to do many times on different issues, astrologers complain because some preferred the error, so you make it another "option" in order to not offend paying clients.
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol curtis! looks like solar fire looks at it the same way too as marks 2nd chart attests to..
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bitkooin according to Nakshatra
I asked Maharaja Boukatalarhajamketuashambala III and I got his answer before I was able to spell his name properly...

Beginning
- 18 Aug 2008 The bitkooin started with the Solar Eclipse in Dhanu Rashi Moola Nakshatra. The effect of an eclipse mostly lasts for at least 3 months.
Weakening
- Sep 2008 Shiva Month -Transit of Ketu in Makar Rashi which is the Maarak Sthaan (destructor) of Dhanu conjoining Mars and Saturn forming a strong Shebang Shebang Raj Yoga
- Oct 2008 The Vedic season of summer causing Bhagavavidad to start his sacred dance with the presentation of the White Paper. We are searching in our wisdom and sacred papers for a mention on something 'white'... We'll get back to you when we find the karmic cause!
- 12 May 2021 Elon Musk is tweeting something. Tweet is available <here> at a very low discount price payable in rupee bitkooin. Rush out while Rahu is still in MIGA (Make India Great Again!) Mansion. Nakshatra will expire on the next Kali Yuga.
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This is a bit off topic, but intimately related to bitcoin. Clif High predicts future bitcoin trajectory and the subsequent social consequences and reorganization. I’ve been following him for years, but he’s making predictions about the future that would shake astrologers to their core. He’s also quite familiar with astrological concepts…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SYEe0ffbQg

The section between 22 - 45 minutes is the most shocking, but the intro gives info on how he’s using temporal markers and set theory to predict future events. His basic assumption is that we are all psychic and that it leaks out of everyone and that eigenvector like analysis of certain keywords of the deep/darknet can be used to predict the future.
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoidsoft,
Thanks for the link to Clif High.
I had heard of him before with his project Web Bot and the End of the World in 2012. Highly controversial, some say he is also famous for postpredictions.
But I do recognize he brought up some awareness on linguistics programming and technology underlying the influence of algorithms.
If you read 'Imortal' from Jose Rodrigues dos Santos, you can get a sense of the actual world order we have entered and it seems to correlate to the Uranus-Pluto cycle.
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11211

To quote another famous guy
"If life were predictable it would cease to be life, and be without flavor." Shakespeare

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Ouranos wrote:
I had heard of him before with his project Web Bot and the End of the World in 2012. Highly controversial, some say he is also famous for postpredictions.


The thing about bad predictions is that they are usually forgotten. He really stuck his neck out there this time and I found what he was saying quite shocking, not just because of the specificity that you usually don't see from an astrological reading, but because of the logical working out of predictions coming from medical doctors (who I noted are usually right leaning politically).

I remember him saying a peak at 64K last winter, then bitcoin becomes "unobtanium" (implying that this happens by late April 2021) due to exchanges drying up (that didn't happen), then building emotional tension around UFO's in June which would lead to a change in the social order and government collapse sometime in 2022. Sept 2022 keeps coming up in regards to the economic situation from multiple angles in my own astrological work.

While his work is proprietary and he doesn't thoroughly explain his methods, he's leaked out some info that implies that his temporal markers lack the ability to be ordinally sequenced (unlike time lord sequences in my software for example). What he says is that when one set of keywords starts to manifest that belong to the same set (which he calls a "temporal marker"), he has high confidence that the remainder in the set will manifest as well.

I find it interesting that Clif High says there will be a 90-95% correction at the end of December. This current correction came just as Jupiter was about to enter Pisces. The same happens again around x-mas.

If Jupiter in Aquarius is favorable for bitcoin, this might be why he's pointing to 133-138K in August which is when Jupiter retrogrades back into Aquarius.
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"After posting an all-time high of 64,899 on April 14, Bitcoin plunged 53.77% into a low on May 19. That low was tested again on May 23 when it fell again to 31,000. The movement in Ethereum was even more stunning. It soared to its all-time high on May 12, a month later than Bitcoin, as it reached 4380. Ethereum then nosedived 60.5% to a low of 1730 just nine days later on May 23. Bitcoin made a double bottom at a higher price on the same day for a new case of intermarket bullish divergence, and in a three-star geocosmic critical reversal date (CRD) time band coinciding with Saturn turning retrograde"

Ray Merriman's Weekly Column 31 May 2021

Let's see what Mercury R (May 30 - June 22) square to Neptune in Pisces has in store for us. Who knows - The Joker might show up for a gig! - Maybe a new show, a Broadway Musical from the Big Banks!
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Effective March 11, 2021 US citizens can now open up a Paypal Cash Plus account to transact Bitcoins.
These terms and conditions apply to U.S. Cash Accounts only. You must be an individual and resident of the United States or one of its territories and at least 18 years old, or the age of majority in your state of residence to open a U.S. Cash Account Plus and use the PayPal services. If you are a business, the business must be organized in, operating in, or a resident of, the United States or one of its territories to open a U.S. Cash Account and use the PayPal services.
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"We are now in one of the most intense geocosmic periods of the year. It starts with Mercury retrograde, in its ruling sign of Gemini, May 29-June 22. The "Trickster" has a notorious correlation to skittish markets where prices change suddenly after giving a bullish or bearish technical signal. This is often a result of confused messaging on the part of government leaders or contradictory economic reports. The confusion may be even greater in this retrograde cycle than usual, for the Trickster is turning retrograde in a square aspect to Neptune in Pisces, the planet and sign of confusion and misunderstandings or intentional disinformation. Neptune and Pisces have an association with rumors and mis-information, in some ways similar to Mercury retrograde. This will likely be a bizarre couple of weeks on many levels, not the least of which pertain to financial markets. Is it a bull or is it a bear?

In the midst of this particular Mercury retrograde period, there is an annular solar eclipse on June 10 at 19 degrees Gemini, also conjunct Mercury retrograde and square to Neptune in Pisces. In fact, June 10 is the midpoint of the Mercury retrograde cycle, a time when markets are again prone to reversals if they didn't reverse at the time of the retrograde on May 29 +/- 2 days.

An eclipse (on the midpoint of Mercury retrograde) intensifies the issues of current events. In other words, confusion and misinformation/rumors may intensify. One may rightfully question: What is being covered up? What is being hidden? How are people being distracted from what is really taking place? If you believe something is happening or going to happen, it would be wise to consider the possibility that the opposite may occur. If it looks like a market is about to rally, consider that it might instead be readying for a decline, or vice-versa. What you see and think is happening may not be happening at all. This combination is indicative of mass illusion.

Now don't get me wrong. Illusions can be pleasant if there is no need for accountability. But if you are supposed to be responsible, this is not the time to shirk your duties. At the same time as all this bizarreness is underway, Saturn will also make a second passage of its waning square to Uranus on June 14. As just mentioned, there will be a price to pay if one is not accountable. The price may be loss of position, or having your duties terminated. Given that Mars is also entering the drama sign of Leo on June 11, this isn't likely to be handled discretely or quietly as all that Mutable Madness (eclipse in Gemini with Mercury retrograde in Gemini square Neptune in Pisces) would wish. Mars in Leo will be prone to create a scene for everyone to see. It could get embarrassing.

How will this affect financial markets? Possibly like an explosion, storm, or earthquake that no one saw coming. It may explode this week, or it may take until Mars makes its T-square to the Saturn/Uranus square in the first ten days of July. There may be an initial act under Mercury retrograde followed by a second act after it turns direct and crosses the same degrees it just retrograded over. This can be both exciting and dangerous. Try to stay safe and out of danger.

This may not be an easy 1-4 weeks for position traders. The Neptune/Pisces element suggests complacency. The favorable Jupiter transits of July 20-25 indicate "irrational exuberance." But the "Mutable Madness" combined with the Saturn/Uranus/Mars dynamics through early July portend a rude
awakening. The possibility of hysteria, even panic, is heightened. Keep an eye on Crude Oil (disruptions in distribution) and interest rates. Keep an eye on your trading positions, resisting the urge to overtrade or take risks larger than you can handle should markets suddenly reverse, as these cosmic patterns indicate they might.

On the other hand, those who are nimble and attentive may find this to be an extremely propitious time to capture large profits from steep price changes in short periods of time."

***Ray Merriman's weekly column 2021-06-07***

And guess who's back to stir some fuel in the fog! Yes, Donald Trump tonight in North Carolina.
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