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Lady Diana's Birth Time Correction

 
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linchi



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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:21 pm    Post subject: Lady Diana's Birth Time Correction Reply with quote

Lady Diana's Birth Time Correction


Born : 1 July 1961 at 19:45 (= 7:45 PM )Sandringham, England, 52n50, 0e30

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales


My correction is 13:57:40

Natal : Lady Diana
Transit : Prince Harry (16:19:51)

Harmonic 65536

We have corrected Prince Harry's birth time to 16:19:51, and having found with the harmonic 4096 (not shown here) that the Lady Diana's birth time must be 13:58 to the minute, we correct Diana's birth time with the sun equation, so that the suns are exact, we have 13:57:40 as the exact birth time to the second.

t Sun = r Sun (exact to the second) (red)
t Mars/Jupiter = r Mars/jupiter (exact to the second) (black)
t Moon = t Jupiter = r Jupiter (exact to the second)





Marriage 29 July 1981 at 11:17:30 AM in London, England (Prince Charles)


Lunar Return (Harmonic 4096)

lunar Sun = lunar Venus/Node

lunar Sun = 0° 2' 21''
lunar Venus/Node = 0° 2' 21''


lunar Sun/Venus = r Sun

lunar Sun/Venus = 0° 3' 01''
r Sun = 0° 0' 22'' + 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 3' 00''





Secondary Converse Progression (Harmonic 4096)

p Venus/Node = r Venus

p Venus/Node = 0° 0' 42''
r Venus = 0° 4' 40'' - (0° 1' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' )= 0° 0' 43''





Divorce was declared final on 28 August 1996, 10:27 AM GDT


Solar Return (Harmonic 4096)

solar Venus/Neptune = r Venus/Neptune

solar Venus/Neptune = 0° 0' 39''
r Venus/Neptune = 0° 3' 18'' - 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 0' 40''




Lunar Return (Harmonic 4096)

lunar Venus = r Venus/Neptune

lunar Venus = 0° 4' 36''
r Venus/Neptune = 0° 3' 18'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 4' 37''






Progressed Lunar Return (Harmonic 4096)

lunar Sun/Neptune = lunar Venus = r Sun

lunar Sun/Neptune = 0° 4' 18'' - (0° 1' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' )= 0° 0' 21''
lunar Venus = 0° 0' 20''
r Sun = 0° 0' 22''




Transit (Harmonic 4096)


t Sun/Venus = r Sun/neptune

t Sun/Venus = 0° 2' 26'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 07''
r Sun/neptune = 0° 1' 09''


t Sun/Neptune = r Sun/Venus

t Sun/neptune = 0° 1' 13'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 2' 32''
r Sun/Venus = 0° 2' 31''




On 31 August 1997, 00:25 AM, Diana and Dodi were in a car accident in a tunnel along the river Seine in Paris.

Please see for the accidents my work :
https://ia803004.us.archive.org/33/items/Accidents_201905/Accidents.pdf


Solar Return (Harmonnic 4096)


solar Sun/Zeus = solar Mars/Saturn = r Zeus

solar Sun/Zeus = 0° 4' 28''
solar Mars/Saturn = 0° 4' 28''
r Zeus = 0° 3' 10'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 4' 29''




Lunar Return (Harmonic 4096)

lunar Sun/Mars = r Zeus

lunar Sun/Mars = 0° 4' 29''
r Zeus = 0° 3' 10'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 4' 29''


lunar Mars = r Mars/Saturn = r Uranus

lunar Mars = 0° 5' 00'' - 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 22''
r Mars/Saturn = 0° 2' 22''
r Uranus = 0° 2' 23''



Note : So that we can find the opposition and square positions, the values were either subtracted or added. The values that are subtracted or added :
Harmonic 4096 : 0° 2' 38'' and 0° 1' 19''

All my works are here :

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi, I see that you have used as a base Diana's earlier published time of 2 PM. Did your research look at all at the 7:45 PM time? I know that India's Mr. Karve gave a time of 2:10 PM for Diana using his (what we would call) psychic abilities.

Like most astrologers I did a lot of work with Diana's chart, but can't find the file at the moment. (Note to astrologers: Get you files in order BEFORE you are too old to concentrate on organizing and cataloging charts and files.)

Linchi, it would be very helpful when you are rectifying a chart of a famous person if you would post the birth chart with degrees and minutes so that forum members can view the chart as they would calculate it. For myself personally I can't really grasp a chart if I don't see numbers, degrees and minutes in the usual circular chart. Somehow my brain attunes to the actual numbers (as measured in zodiac signs) rather than only glyphs.
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therese Hamilton wrote:
Linchi, I see that you have used as a base Diana's earlier published time of 2 PM. Did your research look at all at the 7:45 PM time? I know that India's Mr. Karve gave a time of 2:10 PM for Diana using his (what we would call) psychic abilities.


I checked the time 19:45 many years ago and for me it is out of the question. I have definite planetary pictures and definite rules. If a birth time does not fulfil my criteria then it is wrong. The predefined planet pictures must be exact. If not, then the birth time is wrong. I would also have used the time 19:45 with the planet pictures to show that they are not exact or not there at all. But if it is of any use, I am not sure. Would it convince you more ?

I compare the horoscopes of the family members, which I have not shown here, whether two horoscopes reflect e.g. their mother-child relationship.

For Example :

For the birth time 13:57:40

Natal : Lady Diana 13:57:40
Transit : Prince Harry 16:19:51


Harmonic 16384


t Mercury = r Mercury/Node
Mercury shows the child and Mercury/Node is relationship with the child.

t Mars/Jupiter = r Mars/Jupiter
Mars/Jupiter is the midpoint for the birth event

t Moon = t Mercury = r Jupiter
This also shows the birth.




For the birth time 19:45:00

There are no such convincing planetary pictures at this birth time as I have shown above.

This is an extra control after the birth time has been checked and corrected.



Example 2 :


Natal : Elizabeth II 02:41:04
Transit : Prince Harry 16:19:51


This symmetry between grandma and grandchild cannot be a coincidence.
If you change one of both birth times for 10 seconds, this symmetry will no longer be there.

Harmonic 65536




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Linchi, it would be very helpful when you are rectifying a chart of a famous person if you would post the birth chart with degrees and minutes so that forum members can view the chart as they would calculate it. For myself personally I can't really grasp a chart if I don't see numbers, degrees and minutes in the usual circular chart. Somehow my brain attunes to the actual numbers (as measured in zodiac signs) rather than only glyphs.


I thought if I gave the event dates and which progression/return, it would be enough. Sorry about that, Therese. I will do it next time.
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi wrote:
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I checked the time 19:45 many years ago and for me it is out of the question. I have definite planetary pictures and definite rules. If a birth time does not fulfil my criteria then it is wrong. The predefined planet pictures must be exact. If not, then the birth time is wrong. I would also have used the time 19:45 with the planet pictures to show that they are not exact or not there at all. But if it is of any use, I am not sure. Would it convince you more ?

I didn't ask about the 7:45 time for myself, but for other forum members who might wonder about the evening time for Diana. So you have answered the question about her time of birth.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linchi, if you have time, it would be nice to see charts here in the reduced format you have used elsewhere today...the same for any of your posts with the large charts. The table of planets and degrees is very helpful for a better comprehension of the charts you post. The smaller charts are somehow easier to read as well.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therese, I'll do it this afternoon. Yesterday I didn't have time.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pictures are resized.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much better! Thank you.
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