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Stefan



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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Therese for comments. That is very interesting that this chart was initially derived though a psychic. Did not know that. I have used this chart for years too. And it working satisfying.

Some more examples using progressed angles et.c.

Pearl Harbour - progressed mars square ascendant.

Death of Kennedy - Progressed MC square progressed Pluto.
Solar arc MC square radix Pluto

World trade center 9/11 - Progressed MC conjunct progressed Uranus.
Solar arc Uranus square MC
transit mars and ketu conjunct ascendant.

American civil war apr 1861 - Converse ascendant opposite converse progressed mars 4th.
Solar arc Mars square ascendant.


And the current 2020 time of chaos in american politics have precession corrected transit pluto saturn been squaring MC/IC axis too.
- Solar arc pluto square ascendant
- And the spring transit of ketu on ascendant.

- The Solar eclipse in december 2019, which correlates with the start of the pandemic the precession corrected/sidereal Eclipse was right on the Ascendant of the Kelleher US Chart.
Pointing out an important time for the image and identity of the US.

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Thanks James for your comments as well...
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wanting to touch on some things here.

Most Americans, while not enamored with Trump, are horrified by the prospect of the communist death grip the left represents. All the media outlets including universities are run by them, and social media has been a squelching tool for critical discourse from it's inception.

What passes for the left absolutely will transform America post haste into an abject slave society without even a pretense of freedom. Everyone under 50 (and tragically some over) have bought wholesale into the dangerous false narrative.

The JFK assassination was, I believe, the first blatant expression of the shadow gov't in terms of American awareness. I see this has been posted, so I'm redundant. This tragedy so upended the world of an unassuming housewife, that she made a mission of exposing the Warren Commission and the Tate/LaBianca Murders (the war against our cultural revolution). So accurate was this lady, Mae Brussell, the CIA coined the term 'conspiracy theory' in hopes of discounting her. That is, before they murdered her, as they are wont to do. Right here, THREE interesting charts to research.

In my opinion, our post-revolution wars should've pointed to this, but the national consciousness his been exponentially degraded, most dramatically with the proliferation of mass media.

The only lame defense I have for the crimes of the United States is that this was never the will of the people. The same financier elite cartel that has always held the purse strings has been far too successful here.

Trump, while being well aware the pandemic is a hoax still hangs onto Judas Goat Fauci. Instead of invoking The Insurrection Act that would bring the treason and anarchy to a screeching halt, he continues to bask in the glow of attention.

Did he ever save the world from the extinction event of the ongoing Fukushima disaster? No. His handlers won't let him.

Did he stop the deadly geoengineering and 5G that defiles nature and radiates death? No. His handlers won't let him.

But he will protect our amendment rights to bitch about it and shoot those posing imminent threat. At least, ostensibly.

I've gotten far too old to have any illusions of becoming an adept astrologer, but it remains the only empiric drawing order out of chaos.

For now I lack the means to post the charts, so I offer these dates in hopes those with skill will be enticed to examine them.

The Tepco Power Fukushima Prefecture Nuclear Disaster; 9am, Japan time, March 11, 2011. Pluto in Capricorn in the 8th house with a nasty angle to Jupiter in Aries conjunct Lilith in the 11th, though some may argue 12th house, hiding in plain view.

The first of Tesla's patents was issued 1886 January 26. It seems a futile exercise to isolate a specific invention, since they worked most frequently in conjunction with each other.

George Soros and Bill Gates are both on astrotheme's databank.

Merry Xmas!
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jac wrote:

What passes for the left absolutely will transform America post haste into an abject slave society without even a pretense of freedom. Everyone under 50 (and tragically some over) have bought wholesale into the dangerous false narrative.

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Trump, while being well aware the pandemic is a hoax still hangs onto Judas Goat Fauci. Instead of invoking The Insurrection Act that would bring the treason and anarchy to a screeching halt, he continues to bask in the glow of attention.


I'm keeping an eye on the Mars / Uranus conjunction at 7 Tau which will be square Jupiter / Saturn just before Inauguration day. Around the same time, Venus will be forming a loose conjunction to Pluto in Cap. All of this points to some serious market volatility which will further destabilize the political situation. When Venus / Pluto conjoin, we might see an attempt to roll out a CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency). There's also a small chance we might see something unusual (of a Mars / Uranus nature) happen at Inauguration. Jupiter in the mix, adds controversy (Mars / Jupiter / Asc = lot of controversy).

People have largely not yet understood that the ingress of Pluto into Capricorn was about the coming failure of trusts (Pluto being trustless), and represented the birth of bitcoin (being called the trustless protocol). They (Venus / Pluto) will be in opposition to the USA Mercury soon around 25 Cancer (which represents trusts). The #Occupy movement (in a different form) which is a decentralized leaderless movement also mimicked the bitcoin protocol around the same time (as I explained in my tech blog about 3 years ago):

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@zoidsoft/how-occupy-wall-street-echoed-bitcoin-through-proof-of-voice-and-decentralized-consensus

The lockdowns have not just been about reducing the spread of virus, but have been used by the mega-corps like Amazon, Walmart to consolidate their market share by backing politicians who shut down mom / pop operations under the guise of "non-essential business". Of course this is an extremely corrupt use and made obvious by countries like Sweden that refused to lock down and reportedly are proving the ineffectiveness of lockdowns in isolating a virus which likely wasn't the real goal.

A more important goal for government is to centralize the means of production as much as possible so that they can later implement capital controls (reducing the threat of decentralized currencies to their monopoly power on money distribution). Much like the previous iteration 500 years ago with the "separation of church and state" the Pluto in Capricorn ingress is about the "separation of money and state".
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, there was some joke about how could Tramp overlook that "voting fraud Pearl Harbor", he should know earlier...
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donald Trump on Twitter

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Wow! At least 17 States have joined Texas in the extraordinary case against the greatest Election Fraud in the history of the United States. Thank you!
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuriy wrote:
Donald Trump on Twitter

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Wow! At least 17 States have joined Texas in the extraordinary case against the greatest Election Fraud in the history of the United States. Thank you!


Looks like Transiting North Node in Trump's 10th house/leadership, currently going over/highlighting his Natal Sun/North Node/Uranus stellium, may end up being one of the single most heavy indicators of things if he goes on to stay in office; whereas T-NN currently in Biden's 7th house does not indicate a leadership position at this point in time.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this actively ongoing investigation against Hunter Biden of his tax returns and connections to China Communist party obviously signified by Saturn approaching square to Joe Biden's natal Moon...
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can’t remember if any astrologer predicted ahead of time that the transit of Rahu over President Trump’s natal Sun-Rahu-Uranus would manifest as an effort to overturn a legal election. Prash Trivedi (The Key of Life: Astrology of the Lunar Nodes) relates both Jupiter and Rahu to law, Jupiter being the planet of law itself and Rahu as “lawlessness incarnate.”

Currently in the news:
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Seventeen states whose elections were won by President Donald Trump told the Supreme Court on Wednesday that they support Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s bid to file a lawsuit that could effectively reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s projected Electoral College victory.

Paxton, a Republican who remains under indictment for state felony securities fraud charges, is asking the high court for permission to sue the four states to block their certification of Biden’s wins in them.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel on Tuesday said Paxton’s filing “is a publicity stunt, not a serious legal pleading.”

Trump and his campaign, as well as their political allies, have repeatedly failed in their legal attempts to invalidate votes for Biden.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to hear a separate bid from Trump-allied Republicans challenging Biden’s win in Pennsylvania.

The president and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, recently have pushed for legislatures in battleground states whose popular elections were won by Biden to overrule their citizens, and to appoint a slate of electors for Trump to the Electoral College.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/states-tell-supreme-court-they-support-texas-bid-to-reverse-biden-win.html (10 Dec 2020)

Trump’s January 3 ennead which covers the inaugural date has Rahu in the MC degree which is the degree of natal Uranus. This looks like a powerful placement for success if Neptune on the descendant opposing the rising Moon is not taken into consideration. This chart has the partile trine of transiting Rahu (acting outside the law) to Trump's natal Jupiter, representing the principles of law itself. Thus there is the clash of these two opposing principles in Trump's chart during the inauguration period.


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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therese:

"Prash Trivedi (The Key of Life: Astrology of the Lunar Nodes) relates both Jupiter and Rahu to law, Jupiter being the planet of law itself and Rahu as “lawlessness incarnate.”

This is an insightful observation. Your framing this energy as proof Trump is lawless is only your bias at work. He is within his legal rights to try and prove the election was corrupted and Rahu could show his success in uncovering lawlessness or a corrupt system removes him from office. Maybe all the above is at play. Dynamic forces are at work.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: US Presidential Election 2020 Reply with quote

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I don't know. looking at Dec14 transiting Mars in perfect angles to Trump's Moon-Sun at the cusp of 9th house. That's the date of officially called the winner of election, obviously Biden since Supreme court rejected Taxes case. But that aspect also might indicate the declaring of Martial law by Trump, alone with Sun-Mercury at his natal Moon...
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The chairman of the Texas Republican Party suggested the formation of a "Union of states that will abide by the constitution" on Friday after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Texas' bid to throw out voting results in four states that Joe Biden won in November's presidential election.

Texas GOP Chairman Allen West said the Supreme Court's order had established "a precedent that says states can violate the U.S. Constitution and not be held accountable."


Is that the first sign of dividing country, kind of declaring the "cold civil war"?
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bgggg...
Will Donald Trump Pardon Hunter Biden?
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/will-donald-trump-pardon-hunter-biden-174210
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But that aspect also might indicate the declaring of Martial law by Trump, alone with Sun-Mercury at his natal Moon...


Nothing he does next would surprise me. But I don't see martial law going down very well with his supporters who see even mask wearing as an affront to their liberties. The state telling them what to do is the very thing they claim they are most against
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the chairman of the Texas Republican Party suggested the formation of a "Union of states that will abide by the constitution" on Friday after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Texas' bid to throw out voting results in four states that Joe Biden won in November's presidential election.

Texas GOP Chairman Allen West said the Supreme Court's order had established "a precedent that says states can violate the U.S. Constitution and not be held accountable."


Is that the first sign of dividing country, kind of declaring the "cold civil war"?


A split of the country would certainly fulfill the promise of the Pluto return in the independence charts. I don't think it will go as far as that - but I expect continued protests and difficulties - I am quite worried about the spring of 2022 in terms of budget agreement too
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Yuriy and who else it may concern, please keep this discussion closely linked to astrological considerations.

In particular, the clever dissemination of this or that political view is not in line with what this board is about.

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