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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:46 am    Post subject: 2020's Dark Clouds ? What actually is going on ? Reply with quote

Hello Folks,

Tan was asking about her thought to buy a Property. Vas was suggesting that the Saturn Pluto conjunction in January meant Stability.

These are the Big Calls aren't they in this Game ?

When all else fails I go back to the Basics.

1/ From what I can read Saturn can be seen as being un-necessarily mean. Pruning things right back. Saturn is in Capricorn just now, but has been chilled by Jupiter's influence in Sagittarius I feel. They have been in 30° for a while.

So Saturn is strong though chilled out a bit. Add in Pluto in conjunction and what do you get. Well ?

Good question !!

It isn't so easy I think. Pluto brings power so does that mean that Saturn will be incredibly mean and nasty in January ?

Or Saturn brings restriction and Pluto doesn't like that at all. So does Saturn get a right old fright there. And get hurt.

I genuinely don't know. Probably a bit of both. We might get some sort of Destruction Point.

There is also an Eclipse on the 26th Dec too that seems important. But I also think that Jupiter is masking things now.

Without getting into the Philosophy of Astrology. About fundamental Truths that is.

Jupiter's recent stay at Home in Sagittarius may well have been masking things.

So we could be heading for a Double Whammy. Saturn with Pluto's help is on a Destruction Course and then suddenly Jupiter's optimism goes Pop !

And We All Fall Down .....

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Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when Pluto moves Signs, ingresses, the New Signs's characteristics tend to dominate World Affairs.

Around 1995 Pluto entered Sagittarius and Globalism started. Jupiter may have been there too.

In 2007 Pluto moved into Capricorn, and Bob Marks described this as Contraction. Jupiter happened to follow soon after.

On the 12th Jan 2020 Saturn conjunctions with Pluto at 22°47' Capricorn. My Hypothesis says that since 2007 things will have all be underpinned by Contraction.

It doesn't seem like that does it ? So am I wrong or are we in fact all on some sort of Delusional High from all the VERY CHEAP money that has been propping us up ?

I think probably the latter.

We live in a Capitalist World. Access to Capital is what makes the World tick over. Credit etc ... Capital is Leveraged. Debt is issued on the belief it will be paid back.

Just how much of your Personal Security is derived from Others' borrowing or access to liquidity. And I don't mean Stock Markets. I mean your Employer or the Shops where you buy Food, or the ATMs where you get Cash, or the Banks that process your Card Transactions ?

People can wince at my interest in these sorts of things. But making the News recently a whole load of Doubts have appeared.

Yes a lot has been done to ensure that those issuing Capital are founded on solid foundations now. To some extent the conjunction will find them OUT EDIT [I meant].

For me Pluto is Capitalism. Add a powerful Saturn to it and sparks fly ?

So what will the Conjunction bring ? Well just as the Jupiter Pluto conjunctions in Sagittarius brought massive expansions in Global Trade, Globalism, I feel Saturn's conjunction with Pluto will bring typical Saturian Hard Times x10.

Payback time. And I'm going to look thru the Web to find what all the Authors feel about this Conjunction and post their thoughts here.

H


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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Woo woo
When SA Saturn touched my Pluto by opposition I had a fear of bank collapse
& decided to repay outstanding loans & own my own assets, So fear of bank collapses amongst the general population because of some banks going under is a possibility.
Generally a lot of Saturn Pluto is already evident like Brexit like Trumps wall Populations wanting security of what they know as opposed to what the hidden elite manipulating them into knowing fake news I think most people are becoming aware of the manipulation of peoples minds by subliminal means via media,/internet in fact the control of these outlets by powerful individuals.
I think energy infrastructures will be transformed as vehicles go electric
Energy outages more prevalent. As Pluto has a connection with the middle
East the conjunction will bring the finance to rebuild Syria .Also Saturn has a connection to India /Kashmir may kick off a war with Pakistan.
Fracking continues to put a cap on oil prices, This may eventual cause wars in the middle East to destroy oil production & thereby raising oil prices by this route. The twilight of the internal combustion engine is going to cause a lot of destructive changes. Time to draw up the drawbridge & rely on each nations inherent values. Just a few of my thoughts for what they are worth
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Don't you think it could be good to check aries horoscope 2020? I think it's actually good
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is good you've raised the Question ...

I try to keep things pretty Simple. I see a sort of See-Saw in Action just now.

1/ Jupiter is at it's Peak now in Sagittarius. Also I think it had formed a non-disharmonious Holding Pattern for much of the last few years.

I feel that ends once it has completed the trine to Uranus. But I wonder how much that might nullify the Ingress into Capricorn.

2/ But just as Jupiter looses Buoyancy towards the very End of this Year Saturn completes the Crusher on Pluto in mid January.

I think so so much is being seen thru the Over Optimism that Jupiter has been bringing.

I think we will be lying in a Heap come early January.

3/ And there is some Bad Ass Eclipses and Eclipse reactivations coming too.

I think this is why Astrology should be seen thru' a Cycle Prediction Lens.

For me the doubt lies with the Jupiter trine to r.Uranus ?

How does that interfere with the Jupiter Ingress ?

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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WooWoo wrote:
We live in a Capitalist World. Access to Capital is what makes the World tick over. Credit etc ... Capital is Leveraged. Debt is issued on the belief it will be paid back.


So they say. Put under more careful inspection, most of the world's population has been moving into socialism in western nations. They just call it capitalism and try to contrast it against extreme examples (such as China) to help you forget where you came from.

If you're one of the few, you get to capitalize your gains and socialize your losses. If you’re one of the many, you ask for handouts and free stuff from the government who is all too happy to be your Robin Hood. But without consent, it’s still theft.

Problem is that with our fiat monetary system, it’s all based upon theft (of your liberty) and control…

https://youtu.be/FyK4P7ZdOK8

WooWoo wrote:
Just how much of your Personal Security is derived from Others' borrowing or access to liquidity. And I don't mean Stock Markets. I mean your Employer or the Shops where you buy Food, or the ATMs where you get Cash, or the Banks that process your Card Transactions?


The problem is that with QE, your units of measure constantly change. Using the USD is like using a ruler that is 11.9 inches one day and 12.1 inches the next. And if the FED feels like stealing enough for a war in the middle east again then they can shrink that to about 6 inches in a decade. That’s what has happened because politicians understand that they couldn’t go to the American people to ask for $75K per family in taxes for the Iraq war. But that is how much it actually cost. They just decided to counterfeit instead so that they could avoid accountability and they call it “quantitative easing” so that you wouldn’t understand that it is really theft (counterfeiting).

WooWoo wrote:
People can wince at my interest in these sorts of things.


Is there some unspoken rule that the "enlightened" aren't supposed to talk about economics? This is very convenient for your masters as you're not supposed to get too close to the truth of what really controls you.

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Yes a lot has been done to ensure that those issuing Capital are founded on solid foundations now. To some extent the conjunction will find them.


Ha! Sorry, but that is BS. It's not a solid foundation at all. In the past, this was done by backing fiat currency by gold. Nixon rescinded the Bretton Woods agreement in 1971 so that the USD no longer had to have any backing and refuse to give anyone their “one ounce of fine silver”.

The main thing that everybody is missing is that in 2008, Pluto entered Capricorn and it was at this moment that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies were born. Bitcoin exists because of government counterfeiting. It even says so in the genesis block.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block

It says “Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks” in that block. Anyone following the exchanges between Satoshi Nakamoto, Gavin Andreeson, et al back then understood why that statement is there. It is a direct repudiation of Keynesian economic principles which are a form of manipulation and theft.

The Saturn / Pluto conjunction is going to force a reckoning between the Federal Reserve banks and governments world wide where the bill comes due and they will be forced into perpetual QE. Venezuela is the future for all the rest of us. The good news is that an exit now exists for populations who have been captured by their governments in this new form of economic warfare on their citizens. The bad news is that there’s no clear cryptocurrency winner. Bitcoin gives the appearance of having been hijacked by state interests (slowing development and emphasizing SOV) which is exactly what any government would want to stop it from being used as a medium of exchange. Regulators have declared it as a "stock" subject to capital gains which means if you use it as a means of payment, you have to declare capital gains / loss on that cup of coffee!

Others however have forked off and developed their own forms of cryptocurrency based upon bitcoin. Many of them are faster and much more stealthy than bitcoin.

Saturn and Pluto also represents government’s attempt to regulate crypto (which cannot succeed because the internet is borderless). Eventually Uranus will enter Gemini and Pluto will enter Aquarius, by which time this form of payment will likely have made the banks largely obsolete. In between, politicians will go frantic passing laws to help boost their severance pay. Maybe something in between results where half of the world lives in a digital panopticon and the rest outside of east / west influence enjoy true freedom.
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curtis,

I enjoy reading your Comments. And you make a great shot at understanding what most probably is a terrible situation.

I think it is so so so hard to understand. I just wonder if all the Central Banks have devalued their Currencies then does it matter ?

From what I've read the danger is in that Speculators have Leveraged their Bets so much that nobody really knows what sort of exposure there is out there anymore.

Just as in 2007.

And that -VE Rates have pushed even the most Sober into hard to Liquidate Assets.

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/negative-rates-lot-more-damage-092232093.html

And I think this is all being masked by Jupiter's trine to r.Uranus which one of the strongest Speculator Energies going.

So we are all sort of on a Giddy High just now, looking over into the Abyss.

H


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Jupiter in Capricorn will likely be a very different mood. It starts out trine to Uranus, but ends up conjunct Pluto and Saturn. It's not a good combination for freedom and excuses will be made for continuation of KYC (Know Your Customer), CTF (Control of Terrorist Financing) and AML (Anti Money Laundering) that have risen to create money as a system of control (don't forget that top link to the video by Andreas). The repo markets have already started QE this fall which ceased for a while in 2014. A market crash and devaluation is likely to occur within the next few months.

While crypto assets are generally considered to be negatively correlated with stocks, the coming recession will be the first test of whether bitcoin is such. It wouldn't surprise me that many are forced to sell their positions in crypto due to the economic downturn and people like Warren Buffet who are sitting in cash snatch it all up. Bitcoin may in fact be reserved for the elite...

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@anonymint/our-bitcoins-will-be-taken-frozen-by-the-miners-involuntary-income-tax-on-frozen-bitcoin

Not sure the above will actually play out though. With bitcoin 0.5.3 or earlier, all segwit addresses (those bech that start with "bc" or a "3") are all P2SH (Pay to Script Hash) which the earlier protocol doesn't recognize and can therefore be spent by any miner who can find the nonce for the proof of work. Only P2PKH (Pay to Public Key Hashes) are recognized from which your private key is the only thing that can spend it. Therefore miners can pick up these P2SH as "pay to themselves" if they find the nonce.

The game theory for POW (Proof of Work) is that it is prohibitively expensive to cheat, but the problem is that the segwit booty keeps piling up. This could in the future make it more profitable to cheat than to try to secure the network. The math for this is complicated and involves calculating hash power expenses and the probability for success of what is being called the "segwit donations attack". When the bitcoin block reward is cut in half (Bitcoin's version of QE which is controlled strictly by math), the dynamics for the segwit donations attack will probably change making it more profitable because the amount of bitcoin being given out to secure the network suddenly is cut in half.

This halving of the block reward causes prices of bitcoin to go up. The stock to flow model has been a relatively accurate model of the bitcoin price up to now...

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD

If bitcoin survives this, then eventually people will become wiser about the nature of money and how we've been hoodwinked by the state for over 100 years on becoming willing milk cattle with the rich leeching off us like parasites. We should put our money into decentralized entities unable to flip a switch to manipulate value and unable to confiscate by political hegemony.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-but-they-ll-grab-your-money-1.2760736

https://unconfiscatable.com
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Well in the Lunar Eclipse Thread I've listed the Aspects that are in Play around that Eclipse on the 10th Jan UKT.

I think the fact that r.Uranus is SD too is being over looked.

As the Dust settles later in the week of the 13th Jan off trundles Uranus direct, and no [EDIT] Jupiter around to help him.

The World should be heading for more Turbulence and Division. I think China's Chart takes the Hit too.

And the UK's n.Mars too.

H


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WooWoo wrote:
The World should be heading for more Turbulence and Division.


No doubt. I'm keeping a close eye on the Cap lineup this March that happens around the spring equinox. Something big is indicated and it will likely cause a chain reaction of associated events. The areas most likely affected are government, the financial and judicial sectors. "Justice" will probably take a leave of absence in many cases. (Hoping Mars SR in Aries doesn't start WW3 this time around).

In the past government and corporations merged to create fascism. Add technologies such as AI and blockchain (centralized blockchains only) and you have fascism on steroids.

Machine learning algorithms now have more accurate forecast models than using astrology. While astrology would struggle to predict where you would be at a certain time on a certain day, FB can do so with over 80% accuracy several months in advance. It can also make several very accurate statements on temperament, and create psychological profiles...

In the future (especially expect some breakout in this area when Pluto crosses into Aquarius and Uranus enters Gemini in 2026), the capabilities of AI are likely to render many professions obsolete. Would astrologers be put out of work? Maybe not, but don't be too sure of yourselves. It may be the ATM machine that didn't replace bank tellers, or it may be the robot that fired assembly line workers at Ford.

The coming decade is going to be spectacular in this area. Fortunately for me, I started making the shift into IT 25 years ago when I first started writing code for astronomical calculations needed for the Project Hindsight translations.

Before AI begins to make an impact in our social structure, various blockchains are already sending many in governments around the world into panic mode. Maxine Water's senate hearing last summer was a clear sign that bitcoin was the butterfly in the desert that started a hurricane. This didn't happen because of Facebook Libra coin. Facebook Libra coin was the panic response caused by bitcoin. Now they are all trying to duplicate what started at the Pluto in Cap ingress in 2009 which is a natural result of the spread of the internet having an erosion effect on national borders. The last step was the creation of value from which the internet itself will one day have a native currency that supersedes national fiat monopolies.

Why am I among the few who sees this? Everybody ignored me when I said that Hellenistic astrology was going to be big back in 1995 and now they are doing it again with cryptocurrency. Only 1% of the world has had any involvement with bitcoin so far and I've been involved for nearly 3 years. Once it hits 19%, the parabolic curve will have hit its apex.

The interesting thing about Occupy Wall Street is that many of the consensus mechanisms that Pluto in Cap brought us were also mirrored in bitcoin:

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@zoidsoft/how-occupy-wall-street-echoed-bitcoin-through-proof-of-voice-and-decentralized-consensus
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Curtis,

I like VERY MUCH that you make The Big Calls. I was trying to get in touch with you via PM to discuss some of the Thinkers I "follow" or "read" ....

There is no doubt that some Big Things are going down and how more and more People dislike the US's Economic Power Fair and Unfair.

And the Unchecked power of the $USD. Can the World Debt just go on and on growing ?

Astro themes can play out two ways. Trump might be seen to be very reckless but he might be doing the right things for the Anglo Saxon Capitalist World view.

When I scored Jupiter's 2019 journey to the r.Uranus trine I gave it a massive +175 score.

NEVER AGAIN to be ?

We are living The Trump Trade and the Powell Put. The US is being transformed.

How will it All End ?

I think the fact that Jupiter didn't crash into Capricorn is important.

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WooWoo wrote:
And the Unchecked power of the $USD. Can the World Debt just go on and on growing ?


Essentially world debt is nothing more than the social contract. Once one side fails to pay or is unable to pay, the contract is voided as the chain reaction of insolvency runs through the banks.

Imagine this situation... The USA is 23 Trillion in debt. Interest on the debt now exceeds GDP. This means that it can't be paid back (and requires negative interest rates), so the inflation of the money supply must go higher. This dilutes the buying power of your money.

If you have 10 dollars for the whole world, then the USA is maybe worth one dollar and having 1 penny would make you a trillionaire in terms of tangible resources. That one penny is very potent, but start minting new pennies and giving them to the military industrial complex and soon you will notice you are only a millionaire in actual buying power with that one penny.

The problem with all national fiat is that the total quantity of a currency can change. This leads to political unaccountability because politicians no longer have to ask permission from the people, but simply dilute (counterfeit) the peoples money for themselves. That's why they hate deflation because parasites need that gravy train.

It's not possible to do this with bitcoin outside of the mathematically derived schedule of the block reward without 95% consensus. Who having bitcoin is going to vote for having their stash devalued / diluted? By 2024, bitcoin will have a S/F (stock to flow) ratio greater than gold (which is 62).

Those who understand this fact will know where to put their money once Venezuelan like hyperinflation sets in. The USD 23 Trillion of debt now means a $10 bill at McDonalds for lunch. When that is 46 Trillion, it will be closer to $20. This curve however is not linear in terms of time, but is logarithmic. This accelerates and breaks soon after 46 Trillion.

Merchants such as myself will eventually only accept crypto as payment. I expect that I will be closing my Visa/MC card accounts for my software business sometime this year and only accept bitcoin and other crypto's. Many other people will begin doing the same once they realize what is happening.

By 2030, something will have replaced most national fiat around the world and most likely that will be one of the current cryptocurrencies. By then the bank ministers will have attempted to close all the exits (centralized exchanges) and the one exit they can't close (DEX's - Decentralized Exchanges) will have flooded out and drained most national fiat of value.

The vote is a red herring to distract you from the most important power you have which is how you accept payment. Control your own money privately and anonymously and you become a sovereign. Allow a bank to do it and you become a slave wearing your 666.
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You might want to watch this video (starting at about 11 min) to see what's coming in regard to vote tokenization, internet wallet structure:

https://youtu.be/s8BLeQh7CmQ?t=660

Blockchain ankle bracelets for politicians...
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So Saturn heads on towards the USA's n.Pluto .....

"As excess reserves eased out of the banking system through increasing loans and the dwindling Fed balance sheet, institutions of many types couldn’t get their hands on enough cash to meet their short-term, and often overnight, obligations.

The repo market, where such institutions can borrow money for a day or two, ran out of cash. There weren’t enough lenders to meet demand. "

https://economyandmarkets.com/economy/the-economic-fist-fight/

"Rodney Johnson finally found a credible article. Remember that $60 billion initial injection in mid-September that came to calm that spike in rates? Well, it mushroomed to $380B (billion) as of mid-December. No wonder Wall Street is not talking about this… It’s obviously not a small, temporary crisis! This is a big, red flag. At the peak of quantitative easing, $60B a month was being injected into the financial markets. This is the equivalent of $190B a month!

In mid-September, the large banks suddenly decided that they would rather keep their reserves with the Fed at 1.55% than lend at slightly higher rates to smaller banks, and leveraged investors that have to borrow overnight to cover their shortfalls.

There are two reasons for this, from what I can see. First, the Fed finally tapered a bit and sold of some of their bond stash which took reserves and liquidity out of the system, so less excess to lend. Second, these larger banks are starting to smell more risk in this normally risk-free overnight market. Some of these loans are to gunslinging, leveraged hedge funds."

Can The Fed just go on providing Liquidity ?

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WooWoo wrote:
So Saturn heads on towards the USA's n.Pluto .....

The repo market, where such institutions can borrow money for a day or two, ran out of cash.

They know someone is insolvent. The crisis of 2008 was kicked down the road with 10 Trillion worth of QE which ended in 2014.

WooWoo wrote:
Can The Fed just go on providing Liquidity ?


Yes.

Out if thin air as long as you're willing to put up with it. If they do this, at some point a whopper will be $25 and a gallon of gas will be $10 because of extra liquidity. If you're holding mostly tangible assets, your net worth will probably at least match that increase, but if you're holding dollars your net worth will be eroded.

Those who understand this will take the exit out of national fiat through gold, silver and bitcoin. This is dangerous though because that's when the whales attempt to shake out the "weak hands" by forcing you to sell your assets at a discount. Warren Buffet is reportedly sitting on 120 billion in USD waiting to do just that. So it's important to watch them to see when they decide to buy and get out of the devaluing dollar.

The USA's Mercury is also opposite Pluto. Mercury represents "trusts" and Pluto entered Capricorn indicating the opposite in the 1770's. When Pluto returned to Cap, bitcoin was born. It was called the "trustless protocol". We don't need trust anymore. The saying in bitcoin is "don't trust, verify". Also, "vires in numeris" (strength and truth in numbers). Use math, not politicians. Math is far less likely to let you down.
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