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Prohibition, ToL, Interference

 
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Breeze



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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:40 pm    Post subject: Prohibition, ToL, Interference Reply with quote

I am having diffuculty with readings the aspects in this chart.

Question is " Will I be a successful agent ?" Mercury, ruler of 5th, is already screams out a NO without any need to look at aspects and MR between L1, L10 and L5.

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It will be great if I am clear with below as it will be great help for my future charts;

1. Jupiter and Saturn are within orb ( Lily wld. Give 9-11 degrees ) and Mercury is prohibition . Can a planet under combustion manage prohibition ?

2. Sun has opposed Saturn and trined Jupiter. Jupiter and Sun still within orb (Lily gives 12-14.5 degree of orb for Jup and Saturn ) . As Saturn-Sun and Jup-Sun are past aspects, can I say that Saturn has collected Sun's light and now is collecting Jup.'s light ?

3. How to read Mercury's aspect ? Mercury opposes Saturn, and conjucts Sun. Does Mercury carry light of Saturn to Sun and bring back them back to aspect so that Sun does not oppose Saturn OR does Mercury trigers the past aspect between Saturn and Sun.

4. Moon squares Mercury and Sun. Mercury conjucts Sun. If Sun was in Leo at 25 degrees, Moon wld. be interferencing Mercury. In this chart, it is not ToL as Moon has not separated from Mercury yet, either. So, how shd. I be reading Moon's aspect ?

5. And if I am L1 what does L7 signy in this chart ? What is "other/s" ? Is L7 my broker as we are partners ( broker owns the office, but I share my commision with them )

Except Venus all planets take role in this chart. I am so confused.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Breeze,

If the question is about you look at Saturn, and the Moon for additional information. That is where the asnwer is, mainly.

Saturn is in its term and face, very lightly dignified, and it is retrograde. So you know your work to a degree but you are not operating properly. There is no improvement shown for Saturn here. That answers your question.

Jupiter, your money, is conjnct the Moon by antiscion, showing the importance it has in the context. There is no improvement shown for Jupiter here.

The three planets opposing Saturn are, well: opposing Saturn. So: creating difficulties. The Sun by close opposing proximity and Mars opposing Saturn by antiscion with negative reception.

I do not know what Mercury is. I cannot match it to your question. The question as phrased does not tell me that you are seeking a particular event, so, as I see it, the issue of prohibition is not relevant. In either case the Mercury-Saturn opposition is not positive.

If Mercury is what you want it will came with great difficulty and, as oppositions usually indicate: the effort needed exceeds the benefits received. Both the Moon and Saturn are in negative reception towards Mercury.

Overall I see someone who is faced with obstacles and no clear way to overcome them.
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johannes susato



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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Prohibition, ToL, Interference Reply with quote

Breeze wrote:

1. Jupiter and Saturn are within orb ( Lily wld. Give 9-11 degrees ) [...]

2. Sun has opposed Saturn and trined Jupiter. Jupiter and Sun still within orb (Lily gives 12-14.5 degree of orb for Jup and Saturn ) .


Hello Breeze,

I find Lilly giving for orbs of
Saturn 10 degrees
Jupiter 12 degrees.

William Lilly, CA, p 107.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, johannes susato. Thanks.
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Breeze



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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felipe, what you say is so precious for me. I have been thinking of what you had to say for two days, that I am not operating properly and that I can not see a clear way to overcome obstacles. Sometimes, I can not make sure if it is the circumstances or me. I now know I need to improve myself. So, you add great insight, many thanks.

Well... What I was trying to find out if I wld. Be sucessfull as an real estate agent. So, I thought I shd look at L5-Mercury, the nature of the job I am doing and its aspects and its MR with L1, L10-Jupiter, and Moon. Am I right that L5 is relevant in this chart ?

And techinically Felipe, just in order to clarify myself with the aspects, in this chart Mercury carries light of Jup to Saturn , and Mercury wld. be prohibition if Jupiter was at 22 in Libra . Right ?
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Breeze,

Breeze wrote:
Am I right that L5 is relevant in this chart ?


It may be relevant but I cannot see the meaning. In order to consider Mercury we have to understand the meaning because the relationship between the planets must reflect a real life relationship. Mercury carrying the light of Jupiter to Saturn does not make sense to me. You already have your money and you already have your business and you already have the profit of your business. So that ToL has no meaning to me.

A favorable answer would be shown by a change/ improvement for Jupiter (L2, L10 and L11) and/or an improvement to Saturn. None of those are shown, unfortunately.


Breeze wrote:
And techinically Felipe, just in order to clarify myself with the aspects, in this chart Mercury carries light of Jup to Saturn , and Mercury wld. be prohibition if Jupiter was at 22 in Libra . Right ?


It could be a prohibition. It could also be a future ToL. It always depends on what the significators are in real life and the context.
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