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Could this be the beginning of the end for "Trumpty dumpty" ? Pornographer Larry Flynt has published a full-page ad in the Washington Post newspaper, Sunday, offering 10 million dollars for anyone providing information leading to Donald Trump's impeachment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... f9876e83f2

What is interesting is that, with transiting Moon in late Leo, making a sextile to Mercury in Libra and trine Uranus in Aries, the ad could yield surprising results, indeed, for the controversial publisher of Hustler magazine.

Larry Flynt's natal chart (born Nov 1, 1942, 9:42 pm, Salyersville, Kentucky) is remarkably similar to Donald Trumps natal chart, as Flynt is a Sun in Scorpio, with Mars and Venus there, in the natal 5th house of sex and pornography, with Gemini rising.

His natal Moon is in Leo, conjunct Trump's natal Pluto in Leo.

Transiting Jupiter currently conjoins Flynt's natal Mars, Venus and Sun, an auspicious time for legal manoevers.

That said, both men are cut from the same cloth and are vulgar, lying thieves who have a history of abusing women !

Trump's n. Pluto in Leo conjoins Flynt's Natal Moon, while Trump's natal Sun and Uranus conjoins Flynt's natal ascendant, and Trumps n Saturn = Flynt's natal Jupiter in Cancer, telling me that Trump may get the upperhand in any legal proceeding and could, indeed, run out the legal shot clock, and or delay the inevitable ?

Trump may also surprise with his own shocking relevations about Flynt, I predict, so the battle between the two egotistical men could get downright nasty.

Finally, transiting Saturn in Sagittarius opposes Flynt's natal ascendant and enters his 7th house of legal matters. That may bring him unfortunate circumstances or just plain bad luck regarding legal affairs.

Another malevelent transit is Uranus in Aries opposite Flynt's natal Mercury, indicating the upsetting of plans or unstable events leading to unexpected failure.
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the natal 5th house of sex and pornography
Pornography is publishing, therefore it belongs to the 9th house.
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ModWasp wrote:
the natal 5th house of sex and pornography
Pornography is publishing, therefore it belongs to the 9th house.
Well, if you really want to get to the nitty gritty, the natal 5th house is enterpreneurship, or self employment. Astrologer Jamie Binder makes that case in her book, Planets in Work.

Flynt's chart features Sun, Mars, Venus, and Mercury in the 5th house.

Therefore, his identity (Sun) publishing (Mercury) nudity (Mars) and smut (Venus) is threaded into his self-employment, namely Larry Flynt Enterprises.

Previous to publishing, he managed strip clubs and girlie bars (5th house). Women stripping is a form of entertainment (to some).

His natal 5th house planets Sun, Mars and Venus, all take a hit to Pluto. His daughter went public, years ago, that she was sexually abused by Flynt.

Some say that Trump "bedded" Ivanka Trump, his own daughter, and once had sex with a minor.

Another dark side is he is a failed politician, once running for Governor of California, but losing.
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Publishing is 9th house.
Well, if you really want to get to the nitty gritty, the natal 5th house is enterpreneurship, or self employment. Astrologer Jamie Binder makes that case in her book, Planets in Work.
The 10th's rulerships include vocation, profession and one's employment. If you work for yourself - as I do - one is still effectively working for some else because it's assumed that your supplying a service in return for money. There are no historical references for self-employment being associated to the 5th house.

Whoever astrologer Jamie Binder is, they've got that one wrong.
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ModWasp wrote:Publishing is 9th house.
Well, if you really want to get to the nitty gritty, the natal 5th house is enterpreneurship, or self employment. Astrologer Jamie Binder makes that case in her book, Planets in Work.
The 10th's rulerships include vocation, profession and one's employment. If you work for yourself - as I do - one is still effectively working for some else because it's assumed that your supplying a service in return for money. There are no historical references for self-employment being associated to the 5th house.

Whoever astrologer Jamie Binder is, they've got that one wrong.
No, your wrong ! The tradition view is that all employment matters stemmed from the 10th house, because originally, going back to the time of the dark ages, your father or parent decided your career or life work.

That is a very medieval way of looking at things.

The more modern (and correct) 21st century view is that the 5th house is your work and it originally should stem from your hobby. Entreprenership is also taking a gamble or risk about yourself, hence the 5th house ! Maybe you should read Jamie Binder's book and stop being so defensive about people who obviously know more than you ! LOL

That said, in third-world countries, where Catholicism or Islam rules and there is often a patriarchal society, the 10th house may indeed still be relevent, because career decisions are often family decisions shaped by the parents of the family, and the father is still top dog?

My own parents come from a third world country, so I should know.

Jupiter, the ruler of my natal 5th house, falls in my natal 3rd house of communications. Thus, media, teaching, and transportation, are my main careers. My natal Jupiter is is Libra. My first job in life was working for Canada's biggest law-firm. I worked in the legal business later in my career and also, have done Venus related work, such as graphic design artist, working for a bank (Venus is in Taurus) where I have made over 2 million dollars in banking sales.
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Just because someone's written a book, t doesn't mean that they are correct.
Maybe you should read Jamie Binder's book and stop being so defensive about people who obviously know more than you ! LOL
So, do you think that Manilius, Lilly, Firmicus and Al-Biruni to name but a few who's opinion I share, are all wrong then?

I'm not sure which of my posts defends Binder's book - I'm attacking it. Isn't it obvious?

My original post was merely suggesting that pornography is a 9th house activity (because pornography is the publication of explicit images) and not a 5th house rulership. Although the 5th does rule scandal, so I can see how you are confused here. And how did I come to that conclusion? I've thought about it.

I'm happy to suggest some worthwhile reading material if you'd like.
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ModWasp wrote:
So, do you think that Manilius, Lilly, Firmicus and Al-Biruni to name but a few who's opinion I share, are all wrong then?
I never said wrong ! I think that each method of astrology can work, well, and, there is no absolute astrology, either. Astrology is always indigenous to the culture from which it came, hence all astrology, in my view, is valid, as all cultures are equally valid. All of the major civilizations of the world practiced their own astrology.

Look, since this site is made up mostly of traditional astrologers, I guess I am bound to meet the traditionalists at some point, right.

The other thing to know is, I typically have great relationships with the Brits, but, in England, I have relocated Libra, rising, and Mars is located on the descendant. That can be problematic, at times. I can attract discord, aggressive people in these so called Mars zones.

I could fight with you British people, all day ! What would be accomplished?

I think that, at the end of the day, it is best to merely acknowledge everyone's right to express an opinion and leave it at that.

Let the internet reader decide, who is right or wrong.

Maybe that is the ultimate purpose of this great site ?

So, we agree to disagree. Whoopidee doo, as the Fonz once said (the star of the 1970's tv show, Happy Days (with American actor Henry Winkler, Sun in Scorpion, no less).

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No, your wrong !
I never said wrong !
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ModWasp wrote: Although the 5th does rule scandal, so I can see how you are confused here. And how did I come to that conclusion? I've thought about it.

I'm happy to suggest some worthwhile reading material if you'd like.
I answered your dumb question. Never said they were wrong, but you are ! LOL I am not confused. Rather, you are set in your ways, like many astrologers, out there. You haven't even read Jamie Binder's excellent book, yet, you have condemned it. That is a sign of real arrogance. As James M recently said, the purpose of real astrology is to question the status quo, and not to blindly go along with things !

Why don't you explain to this board what rules your natal 5th house, and what planets reside there, and the aspects and then, your career and its conditions, will be clearly outlined. Why don't you try this method and see if it works (all of you reading this, assuming that you are self employed).

In Larry Flynt's case, his 5th house ruler, Venus, is in Scorpio, conjunct Mars in Scorpio, which perfectly describes his career (sex, nudity, and porn).

Mars is also a sign of violence and accidents. Natal Mars and Venus squares Pluto, which signifies his shooting by a lone gunman, which has left him paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair.

Natal Venus square Pluto also denotes power struggles and represents his many legal cases, including battling the United States Postal Service for mail entrapment and distributing porn illegally.

Venus in Scorpio (a sign of its detriment) is also a sign of notoriety, hence his work has related to things like strip clubs, pornography, and even perverted sex and, according to astro.com, bestiality.

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I could fight with you British people, all day ! What would be accomplished?
Your hospitalisation, I would imagine.
As James M recently said,, the purpose of real astrology is to question the status quo, and not to blindly go along with things !
But that's exactly what you are doing! Funnily enough, I've just posted something about massive hypocrisy (Jupiter) on another thread.

Part from Larry Flynt, do you have any other example charts that shows someone's career by their 5th house? There must be 1000's of them! Please do share them, because after 30 years of studying the subject it's the first time I've come across this theory. I have about 93 books on astrology (only about 26 of them are worth reading by the way - modern astrology is rubbish), and I can't find a single reference to the 5th being ruler of one's career in any of them - and I used to work in investigative journalism!

Your posts are not objective. It's obvious that you are a pro-establishment anti-Trump 'liberal'. I mean, you even suggest that Trump is guilty of incest and is a pedophile, just because you don't like him. How very irresponsible.
Some say that Trump "bedded" Ivanka Trump, his own daughter, and once had sex with a minor.
Laters.

P.S Transits and midpoints don't work.
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Why would pornography be ruled by the 5th house?

Surely pornography is the exact opposite of what the 5th house rules, namely children.

I'd put pornography under Scorpio and 8th house as both rule taboo's.
If it's not astronomically true, it's not astrologically true.

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Ah, a voice of reason for a change.
I'd put pornography under Scorpio and 8th house as both rule taboo's.
Taboo: adjective - proscribed by society as improper or unacceptable.
Pornography: noun - sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like

Pornography is accepted as a normal everyday fact of life and is probably the biggest online industry, in terms of commerce and users. I'm not so sure that it could be labeled as taboo as its so openly and widely accepted nowadays. Sure, there are forms of porn that should rightly be considered taboo - scat and bestiality, for example - but the long and short of it is that porn is images of people having sex or masturbating. I don't think it's a taboo subject anymore (unless it's done in public view down at the local Tesco carpark) - sex sells everything.

I think the main question is this: When does a private or explicit photo become pornography?

When someone says "I'm going home to have sex tonight", we know it's a 5th house activity that they are about to indulge in. But, if someone states " I'm going home to make some pornography tonight", one gets the impression that photos or video will be made and something will be published from that particular dalliance. That now becomes a 9th house issue. It could be argued that the physical process of actually shooting the images belong in the 3rd, unless of course, they are a professional photographer/videographer or actor. In that case, we have to look to the 10th as the 10th house is widely regarded by serious astrologers as the house of occupation or career.

Given the fact that pornography is the categorisation of explicit images, I think it would be safe to say that explicit images only effectively become porn once they are published or become available in the public domain. Which is, of course, a 9th house matter.
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