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john



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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomorrows games:

Russia/Slovakia - Russia. Hour ruler is Ascendant ruler - Venus, Moon in Venus's sign in bounds of malefic, Moon last aspect Venus

Romania/Switzerland - Switzerland. Moon in fall (Scorpio), Moon in whole sign aspect to malefic Mars (ruler of Scorpio), Moon in bounds of Mars.

France/Albania - France. I initially thought draw. Same as Romania/Switzerland game. Also - Hour ruler and Ascendant same humoral quality and Lord of Hour Mars retrograde/stationary. I'm questioning how to read humoral quality after the Austria/Hungary game so am going for the favourite win- even though Austria lost!! I'll figure it eventually.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ENGLAND v WALES 16/06

Frawley

No testimonies.

Lehman Alt

-Jupiter in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Saturn in 2nd house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Libra Rising: 1 Point for Home Team.
-Capricorn on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp sextile Asc: 4 Points for Home Team.

Wales Win.


UKRAINE v N IRELAND 16/06

Moon Cusp House 1 - Fav

Ukraine Win.

Lehman Alt

-Aquarius on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Scorpio Rising and Mars Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of Asc square MC: 4 Points for Away Team.

Ukraine Win.


GERMANY v POLAND 16/06

Frawley

-L1 (Jupiter) antiscia In House 4 - Ud
-Moon sxtl L1 (Jupiter) FINAL ASPECT - Fav
L1 CNJ North Node - Fav

Germany Win.

Lehman Alt

-Mars in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.

Germany Win.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE 15/06

Frawley: 5/14 - 36%

Lehman Alt: 6/15 - 40%

Lehman True: 0/2 - 0%

hOur John: 9/15 - 60%


Next note, Sunday...
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said in an earlier post that things can go wrong quickly, I thought today was going to be a complete wipe-out.

The one advantage of getting a forecast incorrect is that it allows for the technique to be adjusted/reconsidered.
Thanks to Saturnhead for posting the Frawley/Leehman methods as it provides more information to consider.

As for tomorrow, I'm with the favourites again, England, Ukraine and Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITALY v SWEDEN 17/06

Frawley

-Moon cnj L7 (Mars) FINAL ASPECT - Ud

Sweden Win.

Lehman Alt


-Jupiter in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Saturn in 2nd house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Libra Rising: 1 Point for Home Team.
-Capricorn on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp sextile Asc: 4 Points for Home Team.

Sweden Win.


CZECH REPUBLIC v CROATIA 17/06

Frawley

No testimonies.

Lehman Alt


-Aquarius on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Scorpio Rising and Mars Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of Asc square MC: 4 Points for Away Team.

Croatia Win.


SPAIN
v TURKEY 17/06

Frawley

-POF Opp L4 (Mars) - Fav
-L1 CNJ North Node - Fav

Spain Win.

Lehman Alt

-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.

Turkey Win.
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing continuous predictions on football matches feels as if I'm on a 'hiding to nothing'. There's far too many goals going in the last few minutes of games to be any good for my nerves.

I was hoping for some more contributions on the forum, starting to feel a bit like 'Billy no mates'. One of the best ways of refining what I do is the post match feedback when things don't go as expected. Don't suppose there's much chance of Frawley and Lehman appearing on these pages.

The Germany game hasn't happened yet, best thing for my nerves would be 3-0 by half time!

Anyway, tomorrow.

Sweden/Italy - draw

For those of you who collect past games : Leicester v Arsenal 8/14

Czech/Croatia - Croatia

Considered the recent Switzerland/Albania game and the Barcelona/Juventus game 6/15

Spain/Turkey - Spain.

Too many mixed testimonies but am testing against the Newcastle/WestBrom game 11/13

Anyway, for now, I'm hanging in there with above average forecasts.
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, you are 1 game away from calling a 66% strike rate.

2/3 football games is stellar work, sir.

Thumbs up

Plus, I'm doing a breakdown of all testimonies this weekend.

Please, keep up your synopsis.
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,

Please do keep up the postings, they are very interesting, as are Saternhead's.

I have been trying to analyse what might have happened when predictions were wrong. So far there are no clear results so I have not posted anything - but I am looking at your predictions and Saturnhead's. If we can keep up the analysis through the whole of the Euros, there might be something useful come out of it.

Thanks to you both.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john wrote:
There's far too many goals going in the last few minutes of games...



Got me thinking...

Going to post the testimonies for the end of all the weekend games.

Experiment.

45 mins + 3 mins

15 mins

45 mins + 3mins

=111 mins
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For research purposes, I will post match start and end testimonies for each of the weekend games. Will post Sunday games today, as I won't be online this Saturday.

BELGIUM v REP OF IRELAND 18/06

Frawley Start

-Moon sxtl L7 antiscion (Mars) FINAL ASPECT - Ud
-POF Opp disPOF (Jupiter) - Ud

Rep Of Ireland Win.

Frawley End

-L7 (Mars) antiscia Cusp House 4 - Ud
-Moon tri POF FINAL ASPECT - Fav

Going to test a draw here.

Lehman Alt Start

-Jupiter in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Saturn in 2nd house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Libra Rising: 1 Point for Home Team.
-Capricorn on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Triplicity: 1 Point for Away Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp sextile Asc: 4 Points for Home Team.

Rep Of Ireland Win.

Lehman Alt End

-Saturn in 2nd house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Libra Rising: 1 Point for Home Team.
-Ruler of 7th cusp in 1st house: 1 Point for Home Team.
-Aquarius on 4th House Cusp and Saturn is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Triplicity: 1 Point for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc trine Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp trine MC: 4 Points for Home Team.

Points are equal. Let's test the draw.


ICELAND v HUNGARY 18/06

Frawley Start

-POF antiscia In House 10 - Fav
-Moon) Opp L10 (Mercury) FINAL ASPECT - Fav

Iceland Win.

Frawley End

-L7 (Mercury) Cusp House 7 - Ud
-Moon Tri PoF antiscion FINAL ASPECT - Fav
-POF Opp L4 (Mars) - Fav

Iceland Win.

Lehman Alt Start

-Jupiter in Virgo ruling 4th house (Pisces on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Term: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Scorpio Rising and Mars Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp sextile Asc: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of Asc conj Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square MC: 4 Points for Away Team.

Iceland Win.

Lehman Alt End

-Mars in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 4th Cusp sextile MC: 4 Points for Home Team.

Hungary Win.


PORTUGAL v AUSTRIA 18/06

Frawley Start

-L1 (Jupiter) antiscia Cusp House 4 - Fav
-Moon Opp L7 (Mercury) FINAL - Ud
L1 CNJ North Node - Fav

Portugal Win.

Frawley End

-Moon Cnj L1 (Saturn) FINAL ASPECT - Fav
-POF antiscion Cnj L4 (Venus) - Ud
-L7 CNJ North Node - Ud

Austria Win.

Lehman Alt Start

-Mars in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.

Portugal Win.

Lehman Alt End

-Ruler of 4th House Cusp Conjunct the Sun: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Capricorn Rising and Saturn Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.

Going to test a draw here.

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SWITZERLAND v FRANCE 19/06

Frawley Start

L1 CNJ North Node - Fav

France Win.

Frawley End

-Moon Opp POF antiscion FINAL ASPECT - Ud
-PoF Cnj L4 (Venus) - Ud
-L7 Cnj North Node - Ud

Switzerland Win.

Lehman Alt Start

-Mars in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.

Switzerland Win.

Lehman Alt End

-Ruler of 4th House Cusp Conjunct the Sun: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Capricorn Rising and Saturn Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.

Another draw test.


ROMANIA v ALBANIA 19/06

Frawley Win

-Moon Cusp House 1 - Fav
-POF Cnj L7 (Mercury) - Ud
-L1 Cnj North Node - Fav

Romania Win.

Frawley End

-L1 (Saturn) antiscia Cusp House 1 - Fav
-L7 CNJ North Node - Ud

Draw.

Lehman Alt Start

-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.

Albania Win.

Lehman Alt End

-Ruler of 4th House Cusp Conjunct the Sun: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Capricorn Rising and Saturn Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team.

Draw
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturnhead wrote:
For research purposes, I will post match start and end testimonies for each of the weekend games.

Interesting idea. I tried using end times with some other prediction methods some time ago. Like you I used a game elapsed length of 111 minutes. The test was interesting but inconclusive - possibly because the prediction method was at fault, rather than the end time method.

It is possible to make an argument for end time rather than start time - end time is when the result is determined, just as with elections. I have usually found the close of poll chart works much better than the opening of poll chart.

Again Saturnhead, thanks for all the hard work and time you are putting into this. It is very much appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best prediction so far has been 'things can go wrong very quickly'!

I'm starting to recall why its 2 years since I last looked at football predictions.

Do you think the medieval war lords when asking their astrologer when the battle would finish and the outcome, had responded with a statement that they would carry on in to the very end and some extra time beyond, then the course of history would have changed and traditional astrology books would have been re-written!

I won't do predictions for games starting at the same time, but will re-join when the next round starts.

Tomorrow- favourites, except Austria/Portugal -draw.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've quite enjoyed doing the predictions for Euro 2016. I thought I should post up the late goals that have occurred, as part of any analysis that may occur.

Friday 10 June: Dimitri Payet, 89 minutes. France 2 Romania 1.

Saturday 11 June: Hal Robson-Kanu, 81 minutes. Wales 2 Slovakia 1.

Saturday 11 June: Vasili Berezutski, 90+2 minutes. England 1 Russia 1.

Sunday 12th June: Bastian Schweinsteiger, 90+2 minutes. Germany 2 Ukraine 0.

Monday 13 June: Graziano Pelle, 90+2 minutes. Italy 2 Belgium 0.

Monday 13 June: Gerard Pique, 87 minutes. Spain 1 Czech Republic 0.

Tuesday 14 June: Zoltan Stieber, 87 minutes. Hungary 2 Austria 0.

Wednesday 15 June: Antoine Griezmann, 90 minutes and Dimitri Payet 90+6 minutes. France 2 Albania 0.

Thursday 16 June: Niall McGinn, 90+6 minutes. Northern Ireland 2 Ukraine 0.

Thursday 16 June: Daniel Sturridge, 90+1 minutes. England 2 Wales 1.

Friday 17 June: Eder, 88 minutes. Italy 1 Sweden 0.

Friday 17 June: Tomas Necid, 90+3 minutes. Czech Republic 2 Croatia 2.

I'm trying to do the 2nd round games before I know who exactly is playing. When I get round to any thoughts on the charts and the different methods, I'll post them on this thread. I may jog my memory when the World Cup comes round in 2 years!
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opps, forgot to post France Lehman True testimonies.

Lehman True

-Mars in 12th house: 2 Points for Home Team.
-Mars in Scorpio ruling 4th house (Aries on 4th cusp): 2 Points for Home Team.
-Ruler of 4th in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Home Team.
-Aries on 4th House Cusp and Mars is Retrograde: 3 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of 1st in Term: 2 Points for Away Team.
-Ruler of Asc square Asc: 4 Points for Away Team.

Switzerland Win.
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