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Jupiterhead



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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:00 pm    Post subject: Euro 2016 Thread... Reply with quote

I'm dedicating this thread to AG, Konrad, and GB...

Gonna break down the synopsis for every match...

See you on the 9th...

Frawley, and Lehman - Lehman as the Dsc for France or the Fav (Asc) for every other match...

Yes...

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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Euro 2016 Thread... Reply with quote

Saturnhead wrote:
I'm dedicating this thread to AG, Konrad, and GB...

Gonna break down the synopsis for every match...

See you on the 9th...

Frawley, and Lehman - Lehman as the Dsc for France or the Fav (Asc) for every other match...

Yes...

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Right, that's fine. But unless a method works on a Saturday at 15.00 for all of the matches in England it isn't working. People explain those away by pointing to singular matches as if the singular matches are more important astrologically solely due to the fact they are singular in that country but the elephant in the room is that all of the games kicking off at 15.00 have almost identical charts yet produce very different results. Frawley isn't much help since he admits his method doesn't work, and that after spending a whole book outlining it. I'm at the point now where I have to conclude that either it isn't possible to predict the results of sporting contests or that we need the formation charts of the teams to be able to judge the results accurately. The implications and results of being able to do this are huge for us as astrologers, but picking random individual games is not going to lead to anything substantial, in my experience.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand your frustration, Konrad. I've spent every day, for 5 years, on this subject.

The Euro's are not random matches. They are singular games of high importance.

I don't believe 3pm Saturday games work because you are seeking many different answers from one single chart question.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We seem to have this discussion in the Racing thread! I will not bother moving it but perhaps we should continue the discussion in the Euro 2016 thread. Smile
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Addey spin... Very Happy

Catterick

14:25 - Ju - The Kid
15:00 - Me - Fumbo Jumbo
16:10 - Mo - Bondi Beach Babe/City Of Angkor Wat

Epsom

15:10 - Ve - Decorated Knight
15:45 - Me - Examiner

Market Rasen

16:00 - Mo(L10) - King Muro
17:20 - Ma - Bold Henmie

Bath

18:30 - Su - Bahamian Sunrise
20:00 - Ju - Saint Helena
20:30 - Ma - Dynamo

Doncaster

18:10 - Me - West Coast Flyer
19:10 - Mo - Egyptian
19:40 - Ju - Sir Billy Wright

Goodwood

18:20 - Mo - Goodwood Moonlight
19:50 - Su - Dancing Star
20:20 - Ve - Art History
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPSOM 14:35 today, Addey method gives mars Rx in scorpio in 2nd, mars rules 2nd and 7th.

I can see 4 horses out of 10 that fit;

Fire Fighting (IRE) 12/1

What About Carlo (FR) 5/1

Master Of Finance (IRE) 7/1

Dark Red (IRE) 9/4
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Pallas

Yes, reminds me of today's 15:25 at Market Rasen.

Sun is the first aspect and we have:-

-Sirius Star
-Gold Ingot
-Royal Macnab

Confused
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturnhead wrote:
Another Addey spin... Very Happy

Epsom


15:45 - Me - Examiner



Hi Saturnhead
For this race I get Neptune by trine to antiscion.
Instant Attraction or Bold Prediction maybe?
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturnhead wrote:
Hi, Pallas

Yes, reminds me of today's 15:25 at Market Rasen.

Sun is the first aspect and we have:-

-Sirius Star
-Gold Ingot
-Royal Macnab

Confused


Will take a look in a minute...

And have you seen the Oaks, 16:30 at Epsom.
Campanus 5th at 27 Aq, next stop is MC at 2 Leo.
Sun in gemini in 8th (also rules 11th)

It's a fillies race. If you use colours, in this case royal colours being Leo, and sun in term of Jupiter, just about every one of the 9 horses could fit!

However, I think I like Harlequeen for sun in gemini and also the checkerboard colours.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey PA

I don't use the outers with the Addey method.

Cool spot - be interesting to see how things play out!
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PallasAthene wrote:
Saturnhead wrote:
Hi, Pallas

Yes, reminds me of today's 15:25 at Market Rasen.

Sun is the first aspect and we have:-

-Sirius Star
-Gold Ingot
-Royal Macnab

Confused


Will take a look in a minute...

And have you seen the Oaks, 16:30 at Epsom.
Campanus 5th at 27 Aq, next stop is MC at 2 Leo.
Sun in gemini in 8th (also rules 11th)

It's a fillies race. If you use colours, in this case royal colours being Leo, and sun in term of Jupiter, just about every one of the 9 horses could fit!

However, I think I like Harlequeen for sun in gemini and also the checkerboard colours.


Another great spot!

Yes, I left quite a few races out today because they had 4 different minor aspects, all within a 1 degree orb!
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, for 15:25 Market Rasen I have a perfect aspect to AC from campanus 5th at 12:39 Aquarius to AC at 12:39 Libra.

This would give a Libra significator and/or venus combust in gemini in 8th house, ruling 1st and 8th.

Explained?

If using AC is not to your liking, and sometimes I'm not sure about using angles, next hit is saturn Rx at 13:05 sag.

Sirius Star maybe? MC at 16 cancer is not that far from Sirius!
or Hindon Road?
I also feel Explained fits this significator too.

So, I'm going for Explained and Sirius Star as a combination of 1st and 2nd.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PallasAthene wrote:
ok, for 15:25 Market Rasen I have a perfect aspect to AC from campanus 5th at 12:39 Aquarius to AC at 12:39 Libra.

This would give a Libra significator and/or venus combust in gemini in 8th house, ruling 1st and 8th.

Explained?

If using AC is not to your liking, and sometimes I'm not sure about using angles, next hit is saturn Rx at 13:05 sag.

Sirius Star maybe? MC at 16 cancer is not that far from Sirius!
or Hindon Road?
I also feel Explained fits this significator too.

So, I'm going for Explained and Sirius Star as a combination of 1st and 2nd.


Ace!
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

14:35 Epsom Result

1st 10 Imshivalla (IRE) 25/1
2nd 7 Gold Prince (IRE) 16/1
3rd 2 What About Carlo (FR) 9/2


Mars Rx in scoprio
The winner was wearing yellow with royal blue stars and at 25/1 I didn't even look at it. However, a google translate that the name could mean "Let's go" in Arabic.....

I did get a 3rd though, but wouldn't have made money on an each way Sad

Frawley says a slow planet can't win a race.. and mars is slow. Next planet would be venus in gemini. Colours would fit better. And the idea of "let's go" would fit. And venus being combust... a horse you wouldn't even look at! Lala Happy


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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done that so many times too!

Ignored a horse because of the long odds, then gone on to research the name just to see that it fits! Laughing
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