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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:42 pm    Post subject: Grand National 2016 Reply with quote



You guys looking at Pluto or that Sun/Uranus conjunction?
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a hat trick for Leighton Aspell to me.

I think you may have the ASC wrong mate. It should be 9º Virgo 51'.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This years start is at the new time of 17:15, sir.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do beg your pardon.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a number of striking things about the chart.

1. The 5th Campanus cusp applies to Pluto; however, as the race usually starts late, the cusp will probably be past Pluto at the actual start time. So do we use the chart for the scheduled start, or the chart for the actual start and so not look for a Pluto named horse (unless the race does actual start on time)?

2. The Sun-Uranus conjunction looks far too powerful to ignore.

3. Moon trine the Node and Asc is similarly powerful.

4. This is a handicap race and so the Sepharial method should be considered.

At the moment, the field is far too crowded to make much sense of things. Once we have a better idea who the actual runners will be, it should be worth revisiting. I believe the maximum number of runners is 40, currently there are 96 listed!
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. The 5th Campanus cusp applies to Pluto; however, as the race usually starts late, the cusp will probably be past Pluto at the actual start time. So do we use the chart for the scheduled start, or the chart for the actual start and so not look for a Pluto named horse (unless the race does actual start on time)?


According to Addey, 5th cusp aspects only work down to 18º, which, i believe, is a vigintile?

The only time i have found a 5th cusp conjunction to work, is when the cusp itself is in the term of the ruling planet of either the 10th or 12th house - and said body is conjunct the 5th cusp at the same time.

Rare.

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At the moment, the field is far too crowded to make much sense of things. Once we have a better idea who the actual runners will be, it should be worth revisiting. I believe the maximum number of runners is 40, currently there are 96 listed!


Urano would be the obvious selection.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Last Samurai or Gallant Oscar.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Addey 5th Cusp Aspects

17:18

Mercury tdecl Orb = 0°57'
Mars novl Orb = 0°49'

17:21

Sun sqr Orb = 1°51'
Mer tdecl Orb = 0°17'
Mar novl Orb = 0°09'


-Gallant Oscar (Oscar means 'Friend' & 'Spear') would certainly fit Mercury and/or Mars.

-Last Samuri picks up on that Mars.

It's that main square Sun that bothers me.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Last Samurai is defiantly more to do with the Sun, L12.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Sun could be so many different horses though:-

Sir Des Champs, Soll, Morning Assembly, Rule the World, Vieux Lion Rouge...

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun in Aries narrows it down a bit

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are at the two day stage and so are down to 44 possible runners - makes things a bit easier to handle Smile

Using the Sepharial handicap method I get either a group of six horses with weight 10-6, or a single horse with weight 11-3 Wonderful Charm. Now, if only I could find a strong indication for Venus I might feel Wonderful Charm was worth backing EW at 50/1

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet365 have a good offer at the moment - they'll give you half of your e/w single stake back up to £125.00.

The ant. of Venus is at 25ºVirgo05'.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks astrogooner. First Grand National bet placed, with B365, EW on Wonderful Charm at 50/1 (best odds guaranteed).
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, the anti. of POF is sextile Mercury in the 8th house.

Whatever that means... Thumbs up
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