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jventura



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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin Gansten wrote:
Thanks again for all your work, Joćo. I hesitate to add to your list of requests, but as you are explicitly targeting traditional astrologers, I wonder if you have considered including a wheel showing the terms (or bounds, as some prefer to call them)? They would be especially useful to people working with directions through the terms.


Hi again Martin,

regarding the terms on the chart itself, I have already thought about it before. However, I couldn't find a reason which would be good enough for making me implement it.

The directions through terms seems quite relevant indeed. Do you think that there may be other reasons for the terms in the chart? Isn't a table of terms more efficient for that case?


james_m wrote:

regarding the svg files.. i am not versed in computers well enough to know, but i can tell you that svg is not a file that i can easily convert - i am unable to convert it actually - so that i could show you what the chart looks like.. for that i need it to be a jpg type file.. not sure what svg is, but that is what i get when i save the chart made from your software to my computer..


Hi James,

thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it! Smile

When you export a chart, you can choose between two types of files: SVG and PNG:

- PNG is what in Computer Science we call a "raster graphics file format". Basically, it is similar to what you could expect of other raster files such as BMP, GIF, JPG, etc. The file saves, for each pixel of an image, its color and that is why when you zoom an image like that, after some zooming, the image starts to lose definition. We don't have enough information for the sub pixels smaller than 1 pixel.

- SVG is a vector format. Basically, the file contains only references to circles, lines, squares, etc. You can scale it to infinite without losing definition because it is just mathematical formulas.

So, long story short, if you want to manipulate the chart images like you would manipulate another image, you should export it to PNG. If you want to make an high definition chart publication, such as on a PDF, a book or somewhere on the internet where you want perfect pixel definition, you should use SVG.

To see what I mean with the SVG, try to zoom in the chart on this pdf file and you should see that it never loses the detail. The chart on the PDF was generated as an SVG file.

Most people will only want a regular image such as PNG, so I will probably have to change the default export type to PNG. I guess SVG is more oriented for people who want to do some kind of publishing, even if personal.


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Joćo Ventura (http://www.flatangle.com/)
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jventura wrote:
The directions through terms seems quite relevant indeed. Do you think that there may be other reasons for the terms in the chart? Isn't a table of terms more efficient for that case?

My personal preference would be for the chart format, to keep the terms integrated with the chart as a whole and not have to consult two different diagrams. The terms, with their irregular distribution pattern, are the one dignity that can be difficult to memorize; including them in the chart would mean that all the major traditional dignities could be seen from a glance. These are used, as you know, for a variety of purposes, from character analysis to longevity procedures.

When working with directions, I find it useful to be able mentally to progress a significator successively through the terms in the chart and see what planets and aspects it encounters in each division, which is easy to do when the terms are included in the chart. (Calculating the times of these directions is, of course, another, more complex matter.)
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi joao,

thanks for explaining all that! the only publishing i do is on the net. i do find it easier if i can convert the file to a jpg for that reason, but i see what you are saying.. thanks for sharing!
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you might want to consider is working on a report that can be sold relatively inexpensively on the web. According to Hank Friedman, most astro software that has done well in the past has had reports included.
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zoidsoft wrote:
What you might want to consider is working on a report that can be sold relatively inexpensively on the web. According to Hank Friedman, most astro software that has done well in the past has had reports included.


Hi Curtis,

my current motivations are more towards professionals and serious enthusiasts, but that is a good idea! Maybe some day, who knows.. Smile

However, I could try to guess why software with reports included sell well: some people just don't know a thing about astrology and buy those softwares hoping to save some bucks in astrology consultations.. They get what they pay for! Smile


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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jventura wrote:
However, I could try to guess why software with reports included sell well: some people just don't know a thing about astrology and buy those softwares hoping to save some bucks in astrology consultations.. They get what they pay for! Smile


Actually if I remember right Hank Friedman said that professional astrologers prefer good reports in their software and give these to their clients as a courtesy or sell them. Hank Friedman writes for the Mountain Astrologer and can be reached at http://www.soulhealing.com. He's also probably the most well known reviewer of astrological software in the world.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS - It's probably the reason Solar Fire is the most popular in the world- look at the range of reports that they have. Matrix and Cosmic Patterns did the same thing.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree the thematic reports are only a good marketing in selling application's suite, they are almost useless in its two dimensional forms, the best report should be a synthesis in no more then ten sentences in natal and no more then three in prediction work!
The popularity od SF, Matrix, Cosmic Patterns is in their duration and persistence on the astro-app market!
My estimation is that they hold about 75% of market with approx. number of 85-95.000 registered users!
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:15 pm    Post subject: Whole Signs Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I have updated the Charts application. It now includes two new houses systems, Whole Signs and Morinus and software corrections to other house systems such as Equal, Azimuthal and Meridian.

I have also included a new settings menu which allows to change the style of the displayed chart. You can now choose between the Cartoon style and the new Cartoon Whole Sign style, which was designed specifically to match the Whole Sign's house system.

You can find Charts at http://apps.flatangle.com/Charts/.





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Enjoy and share the news! Smile
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great, I love it!
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks joao!

you also changed the save function so i can take it and post it here..


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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james_m wrote:

you also changed the save function so i can take it and post it here..


Hi James,

yes, I changed the default export to PNG! I've also fixed the MC on the "Equal" House System.. Smile


Thanks for the tips,
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:21 pm    Post subject: Great Update Reply with quote

Hi Joćo -

Thanks for the update. This is becoming a very handy app. It's very helpful to have the angles/house cusps issue resolved. Thanks for the work you are putting in to the app to add refinements and improvements.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

another update to the Charts app:
- You can now select between the Traditional Set of planets (Sun to Saturn) or the Modern Set (includes the modern planets and Chiron).
- There are new chart styles: Old style, Non-proportional houses style and the Terms style. The terms style includes the Egyptian terms and faces (decans) in the chart itself..

You can find Charts at http://apps.flatangle.com/Charts.


Enjoy and share it!
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

sometimes people insert the wrong data in the input fields, and the chart does not appear. Most of the times it is because they are inserting the wrong date, which should be in the day/month/year format.

My suggestion is to try to reproduce something like Édith Piaf's chart with the same data as can be seen in the following image, and then work your own chart from there..



It should give a chart like the following:





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