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Many thanks Aglaya, I will consider all the things you mentioned here. I am just back from a holiday in Istanbul. I first heard of the incident when on the mobile phone in Istanbul on Thursday 13th November at 1am or some time about then. The woman was coming to visit me with her story at 9.30pm last night and I drew the chart before she arrived in order to assess whether she was telling the truth or not. I asked the question so I am as you say involved in this chart and you said you think it would be best if I was not in the picture, right? I agree. The event is supposed to take place around 8.30 on the Sunday the 9th November. The woman has a past which is drug abuse, heroin and prostitution and also porn movies. (by the way she is not a friend of mine) the accused is a relative of mine. The thing is I would prefer if she is lying. So if I could creat a chart without me in the picture it may clear the muddy waters as they say. I will find out on my mobile phone when I heard for the 1st time and create a chart with Istanbul as the place where I heard it first. Do you think that would be a better approach?

Stan

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stanstar wrote:Hi johannes, thank you so much for your comments. They are greatly appreciated. I will furnish the details of this after a few more replies.

Stan
You are welcome, Stan. It's great that we can discuss the chart now.

Is the woman your client?
You say that he is a relaltive of yours. Could you be a little bit more precise, please?

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To leave you more or less out of the question, you could (first) ask, whether this rumor is true, yes or no.

Then you should take the time and place of the first hearing of it for the chart. I understand that this would be Istanbul, Nov 13, at night.

You could (second) examine the person's credibility. If the woman is your client for example, you could take the chart of time and place of your asking this question, and then look how dignified the ruler of the seventh house (your client) is. The more, the more credible that person would be.

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Hi Johannes, no the woman is not my client. Neither is the accused. The supposed incident occurred in my home while I was abroad. My friend was my appointed caretaker of my home while my wife and I were abroad. The accused is a relative who is inclined to have lots of young people in my house for parties while my wife and I are away.

I have drawn charts for the time I first heard the accusations and for the time the event happened. Both these show absolutely no monkey business.

Stan

PS I can put these charts up I hope now if you want.

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stanstar wrote:Many thanks Aglaya, I will consider all the things you mentioned here.
As always, forgive me for being dyslectic.
. I am just back from a holiday in Istanbul.
I too will visit Istanbul soon and then you won't be the only one to show off. :D
I asked the question so I am as you say involved in this chart and you said you think it would be best if I was not in the picture, right? I agree.
That's probably the safest option if you ask me, yes!
The event is supposed to take place around 8.30 on the Sunday the 9th November.
Cast a chart and see what it has got to say. Then compare it to another one.
That said...

The woman was coming to visit me with her story at 9.30pm last night
This just might be the best time. The time when you received a visit is certainly a safer information than the time that she mentions - you know what time it was when she came to your home so, why not sticking with the safest information!?
In addition, in this option, you could approach the chart by simply following the rules for similar questions mentioned in Lily's Christian Astrology ("Is the rumour true?"). However, I doubt that the chart cast just before she arrived would be much different but, if she actually announced herself then, obviously, her original intentions should be visible in the chart cast for that moment too. If it makes more sense to you to keep that chart, then you probably should.

aglaya
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Now I am showing off how quickly I can post a chart (Thanks Goca!!)

Aglaya, so you are going to Istanbul soon too eh? I love Istanbul, I have lots of friends there. I usually go three times a year. I might buy a flat in the Assos region of the Aegean Sea. I would like to spend the rest of my life there. I am 68 now so no time like the present.

Back to horary business. I posted the two other charts and nothing like the accusations seem to be anywhere.

Stan

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Judging the rumour heard in Istanbul:

The angles of the chart in fixed signs: (-)

In fixed signs and angular houses or at least in fixed signs and succedent houses
lord 1: (+)(+)
the Moon: (+)(+)
the Moon's dispositor: (+)(-)

Total:
5 (+)
2 (-)

So 'statistically', and without considering your accused relative, the accusation could very probably be true.