my daughter's strong connection to me 1 by starlightstarbright I have a theory about my daughter's seemingly obsession with me. She is 20 months currently and we have always been very close. But when I was pregnant with her, due to hormones and such, I considered terminating my pregnancy. I did not and it took awhile, but after about 5 months, I felt better and was very excited about having her. I am wondering if on some level she knows how I changed my mind about terminating the pregnancy. Not sure if I'm crazy, not sure if it may reflect in her chart on some level but to me, her separation anxiety seems to be very specific. Maybe I'm making too much of it. Astrologically, it seems like she has an affinity for spirituality which I'm wondering contributes to her picking up all this. I guess I'm trying to figure it all out as it is just a theory. If I am right, I'm wondering whether her feelings of "needing me" will affect her past this infancy stage. Would really appreciate feedback from the forum. Quote Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:08 pm
2 by james_m for me it would be interesting to see your chart and how it connects with her chart.. this is under the idea that it is not 1 person, but 2 people - mother and child - involved in this dance of life. Quote Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:05 pm
3 by starlightstarbright So yes - this is our synastry chart for my daughter and myself - I've looked at it and know that there are some strong bonds between us She definitely likes to give me a hard time LOL But I guess my theory is very specific in her strong emotions toward me which most would suggest is separation anxiety. I feel differently about this - I feel that it's almost that I calm her. It's as if she's a bit scared of the world or gets overwhelmed and seeks my comfort for just a few minutes. She really needs that physical comforting I give her - touch - in order to adjust to her environment. It's much more intense if she's sick or if she's not feeling well in general. It's something I'm picking up as specific but I'm unsure if I'm just imagining things. Not sure our synastry confirms or reveals this specific connection aspect? Thanks for your thoughts! Quote Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:29 pm
4 by Morpheus It would have been a great help if you had simply put separate charts for you and your daughter. The Moon in both charts separately would tell us about the relationship between daughter and the mother... Daughter Moon in Taurus... Exalted Conjunct Jupiter.. Super exalted No negative aspect from Saturn or North Node... Trine from Venus.. Moon is strong and Positive... So,, we have a girl in whose life the symbolism of Moon would act in a most marked and positive way...(unless temporarily under the influence of transits...for example currently Transiting Saturn is opposing her Natal Moon) One of the relationship symbolized by the Moon is 'Mother' So, yes. She would look up to you. For her you are extremely important... Expect a strong bond... In order to proceed further... I need to know if she is your eldest born daughter or not. Regards Morpheus https://horusastropalmist.wordpress.com/ Quote Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:18 am
5 by james_m hi starlightstarbright, here is my take. i liked what morpheus had to say.. a birth chart is a transit chart to the mothers chart and can help give a small window into what was happening with the mom at the time of the child's birth. i basically see the birth of your daughter as a time where there was a deep need for a close relationship. this is based on the transit of saturn to your 7th house area, the coincidence of the sun(daughters chart) in close opposition to your natal saturn and the moon/jupiter transit oppose your natal 7th or 8th house sun. at the same time some of these patterns in your natal chart suggest a degree of fear and apprehension around establishing a deeper type of relationship.. yes - the decision was yours to make about whether you'd continue to move towards allowing this child - your daughter - into your life, and yes i think it implies a strong bond going both ways and a deep need on both yourself and your daughter expressed a few ways astrologically. i don't know that her needs are any different, or only in so far as she is a baby at your mercy until she reaches a certain age. of course she is or will be her own person at some point too! a few other interesting patterns to these charts would be the venus/pluto conjunction that shows up in both charts with hers landing on your midheaven axis. the composite chart shows this conjunction with the sun all in the 7th house and in turn squared onto saturn in the 4th which implies a strong love connection - sun/venus 7th, challenged by the pluto/ saturn square which suggests some element of hardship or difficulty as well. i suppose one can use the word karmic for saturn type connections as outlined in the first paragraph and some modern astrologers make a similar connection with pluto when pronounced a certain way too. either way i see the relationship as a positive one where you both have a lot to give one another.. ultimately understanding another person begins with really understanding ourselves.. 'know thyself' is as fresh today as it was when it was said eons ago! greenshot starlightstarbright wrote: I am wondering if on some level she knows how I changed my mind about terminating the pregnancy. Not sure if I'm crazy, not sure if it may reflect in her chart on some level but to me, her separation anxiety seems to be very specific. Maybe I'm making too much of it. Astrologically, it seems like she has an affinity for spirituality which I'm wondering contributes to her picking up all this. I guess I'm trying to figure it all out as it is just a theory. If I am right, I'm wondering whether her feelings of "needing me" will affect her past this infancy stage. starlightstarbright wrote:So yes - this is our synastry chart for my daughter and myself - I've looked at it and know that there are some strong bonds between us She definitely likes to give me a hard time LOL But I guess my theory is very specific in her strong emotions toward me which most would suggest is separation anxiety. I feel differently about this - I feel that it's almost that I calm her. It's as if she's a bit scared of the world or gets overwhelmed and seeks my comfort for just a few minutes. She really needs that physical comforting I give her - touch - in order to adjust to her environment. It's much more intense if she's sick or if she's not feeling well in general. It's something I'm picking up as specific but I'm unsure if I'm just imagining things. Not sure our synastry confirms or reveals this specific connection aspect? [ Quote Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:33 pm
6 by Morpheus james_m wrote: ...a birth chart is a transit chart to the mothers chart and can help give a small window into what was happening with the mom at the time of the child's birth... (emphasized) I don't know if you have read this in a book or these were your own thoughts. Anyway, you are right on spot. You can extend this to Sun (happenings with father or authority figures in family) and to other planets too... Regards Morpheus https://horusastropalmist.wordpress.com/ Quote Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:13 am
Re 7 by starlightstarbright Thank you James and Morpheus for enlightening me. As a novice, I did not know the mothers transit could be child's birth chart but of course that makes great sense. She is my youngest as my son recently turned age 4. What I did not add is that I'm an only child who is estranged from my mother. I have a very intense relationship with my own mother as she likely had with hers. Unfortunately I do not have the birth time of my mother or else I'd post here . All I know is her birth date not locale nor time of birth . I'm hoping my daughter and I do not walk the same path as me and my mother but I feel that I am a different person than my mother having had my daughter later in life and understanding myself better (I hope!). I love my son and feel that it's a healthy positive relationship. I love him much. I feel that I understand both my children equally yet with my daughter, I feel a certain "need" by her to me that I don't know my son has. He might need me as much but he does not show it . I feel that he is my moon and she is my sun. But I admit that she lights up my life in a way I never imagined another child could. I definitely feel she holds me in esteem though at the same time, she is a bit bad because she absolutely knows how much I love her and does try to take advantage of me tons lol Thank you both. Quote Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:13 pm
8 by starlightstarbright Actually Morpheus - would you please let me know what other observations you had knowing she is not my eldest? Thank you so much! Quote Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:18 pm