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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: The Next Pope Reply with quote

Papal vote preparations start in earnest at Vatican

This is a bit of a scratch pad, feel free to add, question, comment at will.



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I looked for 4 cardinals with good odds of becoming pope. Those 2 had AA rodden rating, I hoped to get 4 charts in that but I'll share it anyways. What I imagine is a standard way of primary directing(I just finished Martin's Gansten's book)



Cardinals under the age of 80 at the death or resignation of a Pope elect his successor.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/28297/angelo-scola-and-peter-turkson-are-the-favorites-to-be-benedict-xvi-replacement
here are the top three of those considered papabali
1. Archbishop Angelo Scola (Italy)
2. Cardinal Peter Turkson (Ghana)
3. Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (Italy)

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/new-era-for-the-vatican/index.html/Cardinal+Marc+Ouellet+Quebec+best+odds+become+pope+Irish+betting+house+Paddy+Power/7947591/story.html
An Irish betting house is now giving Cardinal Marc Ouellet of Quebec the shortest odds, at least in the initial running, to replace Pope Benedict XVI.

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/sport/2013-03-01/odds-to-be-next-pope-peter-turkson-benedict-xvi-papal-successor-angelo-scola
Who will replace Pope Benedict XVI
Peter Turkson 5/2
Angelo Scola 11/4
Tarciso Bertone 4/1
Angelo Bagnasco 5/1
Marc Ouellet 6/1
Peter Erdo 9/1
Christoph Schonborn 14/1
Gianfranco Ravas 14/1
Leanardo Sandri 14/1


Angelo Scola is an Italian Cardinal of the Catholic Church, philosopher and theologian. He was appointed Archbishop of Milan by Pope Benedict XVI on 28 June 2011. He had served as Patriarch of Venice since 2002. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2003. He is considered a contender to succeed Pope Benedict XVI, who resigned on 28 February 2013.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Scola,_Angelo
7 November 1941 1:30am MEDT
Malgrate, Italy
45n51, 9e22
Rodden Rating AA
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Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson is a Ghanaian cardinal of the Catholic Church. He is the president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace since his appointment by Pope Benedict XVI on 24 October 2009. He had served as Archbishop of Cape Coast. He was elevated to the cardinalate by Pope John Paul II in 2003, and is widely regarded as papabile.

Born: October 11, 1948 (age 64), Nsuta
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Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone, S.D.B. is an Italian prelate and a Vatican diplomat. A cardinal of the Catholic Church, he currently serves as Cardinal Secretary of State and Camerlengo, having previously served as Archbishop of Vercelli from 1991 to 1995, as Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, when Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI, was Prefect, and Archbishop of Genoa from 2002 to 2006. Bertone was elevated to the cardinalate in 2003. On 10 May 2008, he was named Cardinal-Bishop of Frascati.
As Cardinal Camerlengo, following Benedict XVI's resignation on 28 February 2013 and until the next Pope's election, he serves temporarily as the administrator of the Holy See and acting head of state of the Vatican City State.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bertone,_Tarcisio
2 December 1934
00:00 MET
Strambino, Italy
45n23, 7e53
Rodden Rating AA
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Marc Ouellet, PSS is a Canadian Cardinal of the Catholic Church. He is the present prefect of the Congregation for Bishops and concurrently president of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America since his appointment by Pope Benedict XVI on 30 June 2010. Previously, he was archbishop of Quebec and primate of Canada. He was elevated to the cardinalate by Pope John Paul II, on 21 October 2003.

Born: June 8, 1944 (age 6Cool, La Motte, Quebec
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. You have set us up really nicely for a discussion on this.

Just wondering what happened to the Latin Americans? Odilo Pedro Scherer (Brazil, 63) is generally regarded as Latin America's strongest candidate. Archbishop of Sao Paulo, largest diocese in the largest Catholic country, he is conservative in his country but would rank as a moderate elsewhere.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/odilo-scherer-next-pope-brazil-benedict-xvi_n_2662745.html

Another Brazilian that is being touted is Joao Braz de Aviz

http://iglesiadescalza.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/dom-joao-braz-de-aviz-pope-for-21st.html

There is also the Italian-Argentine Leonardo Sandri, now heading the Vatican department for Eastern Churches.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/leonardo-sandri-argentine-argentina-pope-benedict-resigns_n_2663615.html

After Europe Latin America is the biggest grouping of cardinals by national origin.

Here are the latest odds from Paddy Power:
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/pope-betting

Somehow though I dont think the College of Cardinals with be considering this much in their deliberations. Smile

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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White smoke for Angelo Scola.

The smoky planets transitting across his mc/ic axis.
jupiter conj moon and natal jupiter.
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a look at the chart for the Vatican City may be useful:



While he is an obvious choice Scola does have very strong links to the Vatican City chart.



Jupiter is transiting his 10th house (and the Vatican chart)

Bertone's ASC is close to the ASC of the Vatican city chart. His ASC is also conj the Vatican city Lot of Fortune. Jupiter is currently squaring his ascendant and opposing his Sun. Its also trining his Moon.



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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



a sample of direction arcs changing with time of birth(had to see if I could make any guesses)
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Star paran:
Jupiter rises as Deneb Algedi sets
Sun anti-culminates as Regulus sets

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A phase of rapid status increases: 2001-2003

Bishop
Ouellet was named titular archbishop of Agropoli and secretary of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity on 3 March 2001. Pope John Paul II consecrated him as an archbishop, with Cardinals Angelo Sodano and Giovanni Battista Re as co-consecrators, on 19 March of the same year in St. Peter's Basilica.

Archbishop
On 15 November 2002 he became archbishop of Quebec and Primate of Canada. Installed on 26 January 2003), he has been one of the most staunch defenders of the Catholic faith in the Canadian hierarchy.

Cardinal
He was created Cardinal-Priest of Santa Maria in Traspontina by John Paul II in the consistory of 21 October 2003.
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark/ariondys

scola does have close links with the vatican chart. one wonders about that close square between scolas mars and vatican sun though...then we have vatican mars on scolas uranus... mars rules scolas 3rd and 8th.. something about all the problems to do with sex that seems to stand out at this moment in the church history as well, but maybe they always have had this type of history which periodically rears its head.. mars-saturn 135 in the vatican chart with mars in it's 12th house.. however, the many close links between the vatican and scola are undeniable..

in some obvious respects the cross over with bertone's chart are easier and more pleasant..although not as many perhaps, the angles in the same place is very favourable in itself..

although we don't have an actual time for peter turkson, he also has some noticeable links back to the vatican chart, his venus/saturn conjunction on the vatican ascendant in particular and 2ndly - his jupiter on the vaticans saturn, the reverse of scola..

the cross aspects with the vatican chart and ouellet are also very pronounced in spite of not having a time for him as well.. born a day apart - suns conjunct one another, ouellets venus conjunct vatican moon, and his saturn exact opposite vatican saturn, mars conjunct mars and ouellets mercury fairly close conjunction to vatican jupiter.. all in all the cross aspects look very strong and relatively positive here too..

while it does no good to bemoan the fact we don't have actual birth times for some of the front runners, it would be most helpful if we did! it will be difficult to pick a winner off the data we have.. i am curious if there is a date into the future when the decision is being made and if that is public knowledge? that would be a helpful date to have as i suspect the transit data, not to mention all the other data off that date would be very helpful..
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc Ouellet has
Transit Jupiter conjunct natal Uranus

(his interview is gonna be on the CBC news in just a few minutes now)

now if we want we...
can primary direct Jupiter to Uranus as well. This fits well with zones of interest from the previous sample of direction arcs changing with time of birth of Jupiter to Sun. A time of 19:32 places the Jupiter to Sun with the status increase on 15 November 2002 to Archbishop of Quebec and Primate of Canada.

This then gives direct Jupiter to Uranus in the present.

What this shows was almost a Sagittarius Ascendant(starts at 19:33) and natal Jupiter in the 9th. And also a recent sign change of the progressed moon into Leo.

For these reasons I offer 19:33 as a time of interest regarding rectifications.


http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/astrology/popes.htm
POPES: AN ASTROLOGICAL STUDY
by Peter Morrell

This is an astrological study of fifty Popes

At least seven distinct elements can be pulled free from this mass of data and clearly identified in these charts of Popes. Firstly, they are full of religious elements, such as Sagittarius and Pisces ascendants and 9th and 12th house features;
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/04/pope-ouellet-scandal.html
The second part of the interview airs on The National Tuesday at 10 p.m. ET/10:30 p.m. NT on CBC-TV. It airs on CBC News Network at 9 p.m. ET/11 p.m. PT on both dates.


this caught my eye...

quoted from Zodiact Image Handbook
3rd Degree Sagittarius

First Image, Outer Symbol

A temple. On its front one reads the inscription 'Our Lady of Compassion' (Notre Dame de la Misericorde). Before the porch stands a woman with a 'nimbus' like a madonna, whose hands are prolonged by fluid rays. She spreads her arms in a gesture of protection towards two groups, one of devoted friends on her right side (left in the picture), and the other of menacing enemies.

Interpretation

This is a very fine symbol in the sign of Sagittarius. It is an image of profound long-suffering, patiently borne with heavenly goodness. We can see the Sagittarius grail in here. People with the degree rising are attracted in a sensitive, feminine way (Cn.), back by tradition (Cn.) and the inner and outer temple of their faith (Cap. fore-axis), to demonstrate and verbally express (Ge. opp. Sag.) their high ideals (Sag.) of mildness and well-wishing (Jup.).

In religious communities they may ascend to the highest positions, but most of them are ordinary lay-preachers, work in hospitals, or do other kinds of health work. They may be merely sympathetic and devoted people who just radiate goodness. As such one might almost call them holy (from whole). Theire field of action is often quite large(the rays from the hands). They may do well as educators or as the enthusiastic centre of a communitiy, a church, or university. They have a missionary tendency and their aim is to care of the spirits and souls of those for whom they feel responsible.

On a lower level of cosmic awareness, the symbol of the temple may degenerate into a fanatical zeal for the beliefs of a sect, which they will propagate against all reason (Ge. opp.), and demonstrate with a 'holier than thou' attitude(neg.Sag.). In this case they have to experience how their severity(Cn.-Cap. fore-axis) causes opposition on the one hand, and emotional adoration on the other. The lesson of this degree is that the admirers and the enemies are all outer projections of their own inner attitude, and that the two sides ought to become united. This happens when the emanation from the hands caused by their heart-power, becomes so strong that it encircles both left and right groups.

Within this iamge is embodied the esoteric knowledge of good and bad (Ge. opp. Sag.). These people need to stand above both extremes and sympathise with all persons(Sag.). They are distinguished by their inner wisdom and their smiling composure that can calm the most troubled mood in others. No weakness of faith is to be detected in them. Their hidden sexual passions and lust for money (neg. Tau.-Sc. hind-axis) should have been conquered from within before they speak about it in public. By their superior intelligence they can stimulate others to high attainment. Although this life may be difficult for them, it should none the less be one of humility and service (Vi. sq.), and of detachment, with the total sacrifice of the lower ego (Pi. sq.). They can do this radiantly and graciously, because they know they are carried on an eternal inner structure composed of the thoughts and prayers of saintly believers from the past, present and future.

For this they may be hated by those who envy(neg. Sc.) their growing fortune and peace of mind (Tau.). They may be gossiped about, ostracised, even stoned, or attacked by terrorist groups. Their spiritual strength can be so invincible that they can bear and transfrom all these negative elements. In the strength of theire inner faith they are able to forgive the most painful insults and hurts (Sc. hind-axis). They know that those who hurt others only hurt their own lower self and can only be their own greatest enemy. In fact there is neither left nor right here, and no boundaries to the radiated energy of the heart.

They may have healing hands, and if so would do well to study the Christian practice of the laying-on of hands; also sciences dealing with the use of spiritual energy, such as Reiki, which originally came from Tibet.



I move the time up a bit to 19:44 to give this ascendant and look for angular involvement in events now.

He was ordained to the priesthood for the Diocese of Amos in his home parish on May 25, 1968
transit Uranus conjunct Midheaven
(precessed transit fits to a time of 19:44:20)

2001-2003: Bishop -> Archbishop -> Cardinal
progressed Jupiter square Ascendant

... in Edmonton in 1994. From 1996 to 2002, Cardinal Ouellet was titular of the Chair of Dogmatic Theology at John Paul II Institute for studies on marriage and family at the Lateran Pontifical University.
maybe progressed moon conjunct Ascendant
(would have to assume a jan 1 1996 relocation to rome - give me probably better than a 1 in 12 chance of having the right month)
(dates and events that seem flavourful are a bit scarce to pursue this much further)

re the Vatican chart, Ouellet's progressed Jupiter conjunct the Vatican chart's Ascendant.


http://www.cccb.ca/site/eng/bishops/list-of-cardinals/1644-biography-marc-cardinal-ouellet
His Eminence Marc Cardinal Ouellet was born in Lamotte (near Amos, Québec) on June 8, 1944. He attended the Teacher Training College of Amos where he completed his college and two years of philosophy and obtained a Baccalaureate in Education. He obtained a Licence in Theology from the University de Montréal at the end of his theological studies at the Grand Séminaire de Montréal (1964-1968). He was ordained to the priesthood for the Diocese of Amos in his home parish on May 25, 1968, and was appointed curate at Saint-Sauveur Parish in Val d’Or, from 1968 to 1970. He was sent to teach philosophy at the Major Seminary of Bogota, Columbia, then run by the Sulpicians and he decided to join the Society of Saint-Sulpice in 1972. Cardinal Ouellet continued his studies in Rome where, in 1976, he obtained a Licence in Philosophy at St. Thomas Aquinas Pontifical University. He was assigned as a faculty member and professor at the Major Seminary of Manizales in Columbia in 1974 until he was recalled to Canada to assume the same functions at the Grand Séminaire de Montréal.

In 1978, Cardinal Ouellet returned to Rome for further studies and obtained a Doctorate in Dogmatic Theology from the Gregorian University in 1983. He was then assigned as a faculty member and professor at the Major Seminary of Cali, Columbia, and was named rector of that Major Seminary from 1984 to 1989. He became rector of the Grand Séminaire de Montréal in 1990 and of St. Joseph’s Seminary in Edmonton in 1994. From 1996 to 2002, Cardinal Ouellet was titular of the Chair of Dogmatic Theology at John Paul II Institute for studies on marriage and family at the Lateran Pontifical University.

He was named titular bishop of Agropoli and appointed Secretary of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity on March 3, 2001. Pope John Paul II ordained him a bishop on March 19 in St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. Cardinal Ouellet is a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregation for the Clergy, of the XIth Ordinary General Assembly of the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops, of the Pontifical Academy of Theology, of the Pontifical Committee for International Eucharistic Congresses, of the pontifical Council of Cardinals for the Study of the Organization and Economic Problems of the Holy See, and a counsellor for the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.

Cardinal Ouellet was appointed Metropolitan Archbishop of Québec on November 15, 2002, and took possession of his See on January 26, 2003. His elevation to the Sacred College of Cardinals was announced on September 28, 2003. He participated in the Conclave that led to the election of Pope Benedict XVI in April 2005.

Cardinal Ouellet is the twenty-fourth bishop, fourteenth archbishop and seventh cardinal of Québec.
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http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/new-era-for-the-vatican/index.html/Argentines+Jorge+Bergoglio+Leonardo+Sandri+offer+strikingly/8044677/story.html
Argentines Jorge Bergoglio and Leonardo Sandri offer strikingly different choices
BY MICHAEL WARREN, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS MARCH 4, 2013

Leonardo Sandri, who left for Rome 42 years ago, is a Vatican insider who has run the day-to-day operations of the global church's vast bureaucracy and roamed the world as a papal diplomat.
...
Sandri, 69, left for Rome at 27 and never came back to stay in Argentina. Initially trained as a canon lawyer, he reached the No. 3 spot in the church's hierarchy under Pope John Paul II, the zenith of a long career in the Vatican's diplomatic service ranging from Africa to Mexico to Washington.

As substitute secretary of state for seven years, he essentially served as the pope's chief of staff, running the central office at the heart of the Vatican bureaucracy known as the Curia.

"It's hard to find somebody in church circles who doesn't like Sandri. Granted, few might describe him as 'charismatic,' but he's almost universally seen as warm, open and possessing a lively sense of humour," Vatican analyst John Allen wrote in the National Catholic Reporter. "Personal relationships are all-important, and Sandri has a lot of friends."
...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Sandri
Leonardo Sandri is an Argentine Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the current Prefect of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches in the Roman Curia, having previously served as Apostolic Nuncio to Venezuela (1997–2000), Apostolic Nuncio to Mexico (2000) and Substitute for General Affairs (2000–2007). He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2007.

16 September 2000, when he was named Substitute for General Affairs.
As Substitute, Sandri held the third most important position within the Vatican (after the Cardinal Secretary of State and the Pope himself)

Benedict XVI created him Cardinal-Deacon of S. Biagio e Carlo ai Catinari in the consistory of 24 November 2007.
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting article by the BBC profiling the top 10 candidates for the Papacy. It highlights both their strengths and potential weaknesses:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21657407

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/09/f-vatican-finances.html
...
Bitter infighting
So bitter has been the infighting that internal critics say they have been shuffled out in a bid to silence them and shield the bank's inner workings from prying eyes.

Von Freyberg’s appointment fills the void left by the ousting of the bank’s previous head, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi. The bank’s board of directors fired him last year for failure to carry out "the primary functions of his office," according to a Vatican statement.

The stories vary wildly. Tedeschi's critics say he was an erratic, negligent manager who alienated staff and blocked efforts at reform. But his supporters, and Tedeschi himself, say he was fired because of his efforts to lift the bank's veil of secrecy.

Regardless of where the truth lies, his sudden departure undoubtedly came as a disappointment to Pope Benedict, who had approved his appointment to the job in 2009 with a mandate to bring in a new age of transparency.
...



http://www.thetablet.co.uk/latest-news.php
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Some Italian observers have surmised that Cardinals Sodano and Tarcisio Bertone - bitter rivals inside the Roman Curia for the last several years - have made a sort of non-belligerence pact to keep the non-curialists from capturing the papacy. The logic is that it would be better for the rivals to join forces and make modest reforms rather than risk allowing outsiders the chance to take more drastic action to re-order the Church's central bureaucracy.

It appears that the first bloc would be interested in seeing Cardinal Odilo Pedro Scherer, Archbishop of Sao Paulo and a former official at the Congregation for Bishops, as the next pope. He is one of only five cardinals on the commission that oversees the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR or Vatican Bank). The other bloc seems to be coalescing around Cardinal Angelo Scola, Archbishop of Milan. However, it is likely that neither will be able to get the necessary 77 votes and a compromise candidate will be elected.
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There is a saying "He who goes in (to the conclave) a Pope comes out a cardinal." In other words, the favorite rarely wins.

From a purely nationalistic standpoint, I'm rooting for the American, Timothy Dolan, but it is doubtful any American will be Pope in the near or perhaps far future. Peter Turkson has a chance because the percentage of Catholics in the sub Sahara region has grown from 1% in 1910 to about 14% in 2010 and one major problem facing the Church is dwindling membership. Dolan could be picked (in part) in an effort to revive American Catholicism ("My unruly flock" according to John Paul II) or perhaps Turkson to "Show us how it's done."

A bit of anecdotal history. The original conclave was in the late 13th century. The general Catholic population had grown annoyed with the political goings on and enduring periods of several years without a Pope. Popes were selected by political leaders before the conclave. So the people locked the cardinals inside a building and told them they wouldn't be allowed out until they selected a pope. To speed things up, they only fed them bread and water.

So the idea occurred to me that perhaps, in the US, we could do something similar with the Congress ....

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Bergoglio.
The poor Pope.
Simplicity and piety.
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wasn't the last pope predicted to be Peter the Roman?
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yes, but I was avoiding mentioning that. I've been familiar with Saint Malachy for a couple decades, so it's not news to me. I'm sure there's a book covering it that will stop selling well quite soon. Called Petrus Romanus.

onto the news...

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/03/13/father-raymond-j-souza-pope-francis-is-the-consensus-candidate-no-one-expected/
Father Raymond J. Souza: Pope Francis is the consensus candidate no one expected

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis
Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Born 17 December 1936 (age 76)
Buenos Aires, Argentina

http://www.globaltvbc.com/black+smoke+signals+no+pope+after+3rd+ballot/6442827150/story.html
Tens of thousands of people who braved cold rain to watch the smokestack atop the Sistine Chapel jumped in joy when white smoke poured out a few minutes past 7 p.m[March 13 2013 Vatican City]

local time? have to assume that's not literal astrological local time but Italy timezone?

http://raphael-astroblog.blogspot.ca/2013/03/white-smoke-pope-francis-election-in.html
On March 13, at approximately 19:20 CET the Vatican sent up the white smoke proclaiming the new pope.
Why's this guy say different from dozens of pages all saying minutes after 7

http://rosemarcus.com/astrolink/pope-francis-the-1st/
Sistine Chapel White Smoke (Pope’s election): Mar 13, 2013, Vatican City 7:06 pm (time estimate)
...supporting a 12:45 pm approximate birth time.

edit: I'm eyeing 4:33pm as a possible candidate for rectification

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/13/pope-francis-facts.html
Jorge Mario Bergoglio was born Dec. 17, 1936, in Buenos Aires, Argentina, one of five children born to an Italian railway worker and his wife
He speaks Spanish, Italian and German.
He reportedly had a lung removed when he was a teenager due to an infection.
He rides a bus to work, wears an ordinary priest's robe and lives with an older priest in a simple apartment where he cooks his own meals, rather than live at the luxurious residence he was entitled to as Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
He has written books on spirituality and meditation and has been outspoken against abortion and same-sex marriages, according to the Catholic News Service.
He is the first Jesuit to be named a pope. He entered the Society of Jesus and was ordained in 1969 during his theological studies at the Theological Faculty of San Miguel.
He has chosen the name Francis — the first time in papal history that name has been used.
He is the first pope from the Americas and the first from outside Europe in more than 1,000 years.
Even though he has no Vatican experience, he becomes the 266th pontiff in the Roman Catholic Church's 2,000-year history.
He was the second choice of the conclave that elected Joseph Ratzinger, known as Benedict XVI, as pope eight years ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/13/new-pope-thirteen-key-facts
What we know about Pope Francis

• He likes to travel by bus.
• He has lived for more than 50 years with one functioning lung. He had the other removed as a young man because of infection.

• He is the son of an Italian railway worker.
• He trained as a chemist.
• He is the first non-European pope in the modern era.
• He claims that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children but believes that condoms "can be permissible" to prevent infection.
• In 2001 he washed and kissed the feet of Aids patients in a hospice.
• He speaks fluent Italian, as well as Spanish and German.
• Until now he has been living in a small flat, eschewing a formal bishop's residence.
• He told Argentinians not to travel to Rome to celebrate if he was appointed but to give their money to the poor instead.
• He is believed to have been the runner-up in the last papal conclave in 2005.
• He has co-written a book, in Spanish, called Sobre el Cielo y la Tierra (On Heaven and Earth). You can buy it on Kindle.
• Though conservative on church doctrine, he has criticised priests who refuse to baptise babies born to single mothers.


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