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Andrew Bevan



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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Vampires Reply with quote

Vampires

Saturn in Scorpio transit my ascendant the other day. Having payed due caution in the traffic and on slippy roads I reached my destination in safety and slipped to ease in the comfort of an easy chair. Then my eyes raised to meet with "The Vampire".


"The Vampire" - Edvard Munch

Munch is a reknown Norwegain artist of international stature and some of you may recall his 'Scream' being auctioned to record prices in the US last year. I had been eyeing Saturn's approach to my ascendant and wondering what sensible precautions may be made, but then when an original 'Vampire' turned up I was taken completely by suprize. How appropriate and in agreement with the transit of the day. Laughing
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Andrew,

just wanted to add it is not time to drop the guard (or the garland of garlic) yet: Saturn turns retrograde at 11Sco31 (soon) and turns direct at 04Sco49 (in July), this year. Gobsmacked

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Vampires Reply with quote

Hi Andrew!

I was able to see the Munch exhibit at MoMa a few weeks ago. His work is quite evocative and dark!
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey andrew - 1895 is the year the picture is said to be painted... that year saturn was in scorpio the whole year, doing a station at 0 scorpio in the summer, but remaining in scorpio for the whole year.
looking at the day chart for munch - saturn in libra, while moon is in capricorn for the whole day no matter the time, and a good chance of it being in square to the saturn as well for much of the day.
i looked at a day chart for Hans Jęger - a friend of munchs who was said to have an influence on munch and he also has the moon in capricorn, along with a mars in scorpio placements they both share..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edvard_Munch
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james wrote:
hey andrew - 1895 is the year the picture is said to be painted... that year saturn was in scorpio the whole year, doing a station at 0 scorpio in the summer, but remaining in scorpio for the whole year.

Cool! Cool

Bye the way, Irisalbus, thanks regarding the tips on the garlic! Thumbs up
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James, it looks as if Jupiter was in dualistic Gemini, too! Surprised

Currently, Saturn is in Scorpio in sextile with Pluto in Capricorn.
That might reckon for some sort of mutual reception, although I haven't made a custom of thinking that way with the outer planets.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing traditional and ancient about this thread is the vampire and garlic in a thread.Twisted Evil
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Loius Stevenson, author of Dr. Jekell and Mr. Hyde, was born on Nov. 13. 1850. He had his natal Sun in Scorpio on the antiscia of the Moon's South Node in Aquarius. The Sun is in Scorpio with Mercury and Mars. Edvard Munch was born Dec. 12. 1863 and has his Mars in Scorpio, joined with the Moon's Node (or shall we call it the Dragon) within a degree of Mars in the chart of Stevenson.

I am not sure where this thread should have been started, PD.
Nativities and general techniques? I might have put it under traditional astrology by mistake. Please feel free to do the mutual reception thing and move it from one place to another.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The syzygy preceeding the birth of Stevenson occurred on Nov 4. 1850 at 02.40 GMT with the luminaries at 11SC21. On February 13., the day to which my experience refers to, transit Saturn was 11SC30.

I checked the syzygy prior to the birth of Munch. This happened on Dec.12 1863 at 20.25 GMT. The luminaries are located 18SG21. That's odd. Apart from the antiscia I have heard of no rule regarding mirroring the positions of planets across the boundaries of signs, yet if the syzygy of Munch was 'parallelled' in Scorpio the position would be 11SC39...

The Lord of the Stevenson syzygy is Mars located 18°52' Scorpio.
The Lord of the Munch syzygy is Jupiter in 16°23' Scorpio.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding to the issue of transit Saturn landing on my ascendant, I might mention I was served a chicken leg on Thursday 14th that must have been over date and definately off!
Sick


Edvard Munch: "The Scream"

Back to Munch. I don't know what's going on but people were standing in cues several 100m's long and up for over 1,5 hours to get into the Munch museum yesterday, Feb. 17. Check it out: Aftenposten

Does it relate to stationary Saturn? Shocked
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oscar Pistorius.
1986/11/22

Merc retro Scorpio 13
Venus retro Scorpio 5
Pluto in Scorpio 8

Blood, Vampire and scream all in one.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturn's station in Scorpio is a major topic here - being it's first station.

Regarding the issue of vampires, maybe the Yod consisting of Scorpio, Capricorn and Gemini could be put into a meaningful context; Scorpio and Capricorn may represent a karma, condemnation, passion, need and suffering related to the underworld. Gemini is stuck in dualistism and the present. (Gemini's are commonly said to be able so sell ASH to the Devil). The opposite sign Sagittarius would imply freedom, forgiveness a release and the opportunity to move on in the longer journey and progress of the Soul.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being an expert Smile in traditional vampires I cannot help to mention the night of June 16th when Polidori (Byron's secretary), Byron, Mary Wollstonecraft and her future husband Shelley met and competed in order to invent the scariest story. In this very night two of the most important gothic stories were invented, Frankenstein (Mary W. Shelley) and The Vampire (Polidori). This was the prototype for vampires as we currently know.


Astronomy was very helpful to reconstruct the date of the gloomy meeting.

http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2011/September-2011/Frankenstein092611.html
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Regarding the issue of vampires, maybe the Yod consisting of Scorpio, Capricorn and Gemini could be put into a meaningful context

A Yod is a 'Finger of Fate'. With the above combination as example, there would be 12 such 'fates' protrayed in the zodiac.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Zodiacal releasing of Spirit:
Oscar Pistorius:

Part of spirit in Gemini.
Zodiacal releasing period:

Major:
Cancer:natal 6th,Moon in 6th.
Sub period :Sagittarius- 7th from Gemini.11th(friends and colleagues) from ascendant.

Sudden Advancement
18°33′16″ sagittarius -11th house

Vocation and Status
12°45′27″ Cancer- 5th

Honor, Nobility (Day)
02°01′14″ Cancer -5th

There is something very wrong with Sagittarius and Cancer combination.
The don't see eye to eye.There is an inconjunct there.
(half of the pointy finger)

Calculated from the POF(Libra)-
This happens in Sagittarius major and Aquarius sub.
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