I rectified the horoscopes of North Korea and Kim Jong Un.
There are no known birthtimes.

The horoscope charts can be seen on my website www.andrieshendrikc.jouwweb.nl.

The Draconises of the USA and North Korea are square:
USA 8 Leo.
North Korea 8 Taurus!

I have studied the horoscope, progressive aspects, transits of North Korea, Kim Jong Un, South Korea etc. again and conclude that the dates 24 and 25 May 2013 are very indicating for an important event.
Kim Jong Un is fascinated by militairy affairs; he has sun position in 18 degrees Capricornus: see Sabian degree symbol.

It seems to me that North Korea shall attack South Korea on 24 May 2013.

Progressive aspects according the Gieles minus 1 system and transits for 24 and 25 May 2013.

Kim Jong Un.

24-May-2013 019?,33'35 Capricornus MC * DENEB (MARS - JUP )
Deneb - [20 degrees of Capricorn] Good for military, successful warriors, ability for command. Benevolence.
24-May-2013 -18?,48'14 Moon // Merc
24-May-2013 009?,38'06 Pisces Ven 60 Pars frt.
24-May-2013 022?,34'16 Gemini Jup 120 Mars transit
25-May-2013 017?,29'15 Pisces C-12 45 Merc
25-May-2013 009?,38'18 Pisces Ven 90 AR06 (arabic)
25-May-2013 022?,51'03 Gemini Jup 180 MC transit

North Korea.

24-May-2013 022?,28'32 Gemini Jup 45 Drac transit
25-May-2013 018?,35'19 Sagittarius Mars 45 Mars
25-May-2013 022?,50'24 Gemini Jup 60 C-11 transit

South Korea.

24-May-2013 022?,38'43 Gemini Jup 60 Sun transit
24-May-2013 006?,21'03 Scorpio Sat 135 C?2 transit
25-May-2013 011?,35'11 Aries MC 135 Merc (opposite radix Neptune 12 Libra North Korea)



Peoples republic China.

24-May-2013 022?,40'47 Gemini Jup 90 C?2 transit
24-May-2013 011?,22'32 Aries Ura 90 AR01 (arabic) transit
24-May-2013 022?,35'32 Gemini Jup 150 Jup transit
24-May-2013 025?,06'24 Taurus Mars 135 C-12 transit

25-May-2013 019?,58'34 Aquarius C-11 135 Ura

USA.

24-May-2013 022?,35'52 Gemini Jup 45 Drac transit
25-May-2013 006?,18'16 Scorpio Sat 135 Mars transit

Barack H. Obama.

24-May-2013 022?,35'06 Gemini Jup 90 Mars transit
24-May-2013 025?,16'39 Taurus Mars 90 Ura transit

United Nations.

24-May-2013 022?,36'42 Gemini Jup 0 Moon transit
24-May-2013 025?,12'40 Taurus Mars 0 C?2 transit
24-May-2013 024?,45'14 Taurus Mars 60 Sat transit
25-May-2013 011?,25'36 Aries Ura 120 Pars transit
25-May-2013 026?,05'44 Taurus Mars 135 MC transit

Progressive aspects Barack H. Obama:
29-March-2013 006?,59'03 Aries Moon 150 Pluto
29-March-2013 025?,19'38 Libra Mars 90 Saturnus

Progressive aspect Kim Jong Un:
29-March-2013 016?,56'03 Aquarius Sun 135 mutual Draconis.
29-March-2003 007?,57'51 Aries Sun 45 Chiron transit


North Korea Threatens to ?Mercilessly Strike? U.S.

(CNN) ? North Korea?s leader approved a plan to prepare standby rockets to hit U.S. targets, state media said Friday, after American stealth bombers carried out a practice mission over South Korea.

In a meeting with military leaders early Friday March 29, 2013 Kim Jong Un, ?said he has judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation,? the state-run KCNA news agency reported.

Do you have a lot of experience with rectifications, Cats? According to Wikipedia (link), North Korean authorities have stated that his (Kim Jong Un) birthdate is January 8, 1982, but outside speculation by analysts and observers believe his birthdate to be around 1983 or early 1984. In which sign do you think he has his natal Moon?

You don't actually state his birthdate or his birthtime at Skyscript, or describe the methodology upon which you formed your rectifications. As far as I can work out, you associate his fascination with the military to the degree of his natal Sun and the Sabian symbols. Does this form any part of your prediction of an attack on South Korea on May 24?

I think there is space to explore the charts of North Korea and South Korea at the Mundane of Skyscript, but it isn't always easy to follow an array of newspaper quotes and a string of progressed data without a more in depth explaination. What is the Gieles minus 1 system? I am lost.

Kim Jong Un assumed office as the Supreme Leader of North Korea on December 17. 2011. This is only 1 week after Uranus made his 2nd station in the 1st degree of Aries on Dec 10. 2011, on the same day as there was a total lunar eclipse in the 19th degree of Gemini. On Dec 17. the Moon was in Virgo joined to the planet Mars. This could be considered to be related to military aggitation or aggressiveness.

I think good work on vital issues should be stimmulated at Skyscript, as it is, but I had to read through your posts a few times and was still not quite sure at what end to start. Maybe it is an idea to take one chart at a time? The tension in the Korean peninsula appears to be on the rize and this should be an issue for some time to come.

I believe that if North Korea is going to fire their missiles it will be April 7-10th, and I think they will.

The AFA has their horoscope at: http://www.astrologers.com/userfiles/North%20Korea.pdf
Taken from: Horoscopes of Asia, Australia and the Pacific by Marc Penfield. (Source: CNN)

According to the above chart, Uranus, Sun, Venus and Mars in Aries, in the 12th. Transiting Mars in 12th will be trining Progressed Mars in the 8th, conjunct Natal Jupiter/Moon conjunction. Transiting Sun will also be conjunct prog. Moon in Aries, among other considerations. I haven't looked up Kim Jong Un's horoscope yet.

i have 3 or 4 charts for north korea.

the one that nic campion uses in his book is for 12 noon, in the absence of any concrete time being given for sept 10 1948 - 25 scorpio 45 rising..

i have a few rectifications from isaac starkmen and neville lang - both using the sept 9th date and now we have a few from cats.. no shortage of rectified charts, lol...

i would be curious to know the background on the 9pm chart morning sun.. what notes does penfield give in his book? does anyone have his book to give us a report on that? if someone wants, i can type out what campion says in his latest edition of the book of world horoscopes..

in the absence of a chart that everyone agrees on, it is going to be tricky to make much of any prediction.. if someone gets lucky does that mean all the other rectified charts become null and void? LOLOL

Hi James,

I do not have the book, the American Federation of Astrologers, posted this in their newsletter. So that is the one I used. Yes, there are many, but I am sticking my neck out and using this one and choosing a date that I think they will fire missiles. Anyone else game? If the chart is wrong, then of course all the indicators will be wrong.

I see that A.H. Cats has selected the Full Moon Lunar Eclipse on May 25th.

As Kim Jong Un is tied to Eclipses they are:

April 26th - 4:58 AM, North Korea - April 25th US - Full Moon Lunar Eclipse
May 10th - New Moon Solar Eclipse
May 25th - Full Moon Lunar Eclipse

The full moon Lunar Eclipse chart of North Korea, on April 25th, also has volatile aspects, Sun/Mars in 12th conjunct Asc, / Saturn Moon conjunction in Scorpio on Desc axis, Pluto from 9th, squaring Uranus in 12th, Prog. Pluto squaring N.Node in 7th.

The April 25th/26th Full Moon Lunar Eclipse is also a very high possibility of a missile launch from N. Korea.

marjorie orr gives a time of 11:57am as the time for when kim jong took over on dec 29 2011.. i would use this chart in the absence of a clear chart to use for north korea. i will have a look at it and pass some comments later..

the first thing of note for me astrologically is the transit/station of saturn at approx 10 scorpio squaring onto the natal venus in this chart.. this passing square happens to be 45/135 to the ascendant degree as well which i consider additional stress coming out into the public.. the exact station of saturn was at 11 scorpio 30..an interesting feature of this chart is uranus at zero aries on the nodal axis of planet earth. another interesting feature to this chart is mars on the descendant which is the same for the 9pm sept 10th chart the afa is supposedly using.. different sign but same pugnacious dynamic!


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Hello James,

Yes, that is a very good chart to use in the absence of a bonifide time of creation of North Korea. Good Idea!!

I did find a Library of Congress ? Federal Research Division PDF for the history of Korea and creating of North Korea, it states it : Independence: August 15, 1945, from Japan; Democratic People?s Republic of Korea founded September 9, 1948.

The link is:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/North_Korea.pdf

So the one the AFA published, in the aforementioned post is incorrect using Sept. 10th, using US Library of Congress, Federal Research Division.

I should have looked it up before i used the AFA's chart.

Back to the chart James posted:

Sun/Pluto conjunction in 10th!! Really alot of power struggles, and unwilling to back down, particularly being in Capricorn!

The ruler of the 10th, Jupiter is Trining the 10th and the Sun/Pluto conjunction. Kim Jong Un's govt should not have a problem obtaining a nuclear missile or other resources they need, with that configuration. Realistically speaking there are any number of countries that are willing to sell plutonium as well as the technology, or already developed missiles. Uranus in the first, conj. ASC, want to set himself and country apart, as a valid world leader and progressive country.

Uranus / Saturn 150 inconjunct, in this chart, is repeated at present in the present TRANSITS of Uranus in Aries inconjunct Saturn in Scorpio, both ruled by Mars, currently very strong and bold in Aries.

The Mutual Reception between Natal Saturn in Libra in 8th and Venus in Aquarius in the 11th, is also an indication his friends/ countries in this case will help him achieve is 8th house ill will toward other countries.

Moon/Neptune Conjunction in 12th, what he perceives is skewed and errant thinking, with Neptune clouding his thoughts and emotions, making mountains out of molehills, perceiving enemies and threats where there are none, but that is the way he FEELS and thinks, which he will act on, with ruler of the Moon, Jupiter in Taurus, and Saturn in Libra (exalted) increasing the strength of his beliefs, thoughts and emotions, that they are valid, and for a higher purpose (Jupiter) and his belief that has the Authoritative and Fair assessment (Saturn in Libra). Even though his thoughts and feelings are being skewed. Not to mention that Sun/Pluto conjunction in the 10th, believing in his own power and unwilling to back down!

thanks morning sun,

according to nic campion, and he gives copious footnotes to all of his comments he states at the end of his commentary on north korea " However, it is clear that, while the proclamation was made on 10 September, we have absolutely no indication of the time of day. In the absence of further information chart 179, for North Korea is set for 12:00 noon on 10 September 1948, for the capital, Pyongyang.

perhaps i ought to include a bit more that comes before this quote i offer. "The event aroused a total lack of interest in the West and no mention could be found in any English language press report apart from the NYT or in the BBC Summary of World Broadcasts. The position is complicated by the fact that different dates, such as 9 September (see footnote 332) and 12 September (footnote 331), are given for independence."

it's complicated!

were you able to get the same prediction off using the chart for kim jong un's inauguration?