31 by pankajdubey Is there a way to tell which image management agency does the Pope employ. I need one for myself. This Pope who was said to speak rarely is now so good at working the crowds. Quote Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:52 pm
32 by Tom FYI I don't have time to run it yet Jorge Bergoglio, 17 December 1936, 17.10 (5:10 p.m.) ADT (+3), Flores, Buenos Aires, Argentina (34s36, 58w27). ASC: 20 Taurus. RR=AA (from quoted birth record). SOURCE: GraZia Bordoni quotes data from birth record courtesy of Buenos Aires residents Adriana and Federico Cavadini. Quote Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:07 pm
33 by Tom And I should add a tip of the hat to Ariondys, who was within about a half hour and not quite finished with his rectification. Well done. Quote Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:10 pm
34 by pankajdubey Fits in nicely with age 21 lung surgery. 33 min =8 yrs approx. Ariondys took the age at lung surgery to be fifteen. Last edited by pankajdubey on Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:53 am, edited 1 time in total. Quote Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:31 pm
36 by pankajdubey Unrectified. Ptolemy key. Sun * Sun zodiacal. But the rest are bad and not good for health. Natally, saturn in 10th like Napoleon and you know who. The God's knight may have to fight the Papal army again. Quote Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:11 am
37 by Isaac Starkman I rectified his chart to 17.01.44 ADT Asc 18TAU18'. Jupiter and Mercury conjunct Vertex trine Uranus in 12th, which is ruler of MC. Helio Mercury conjunct MC ! Helio Venus sextile Moon and geo Venus, Part of Fortune 180 Jupiter- all these aspects fit him perfectly. The main primary directions in Topocentric system for the election on 13 March: Jupiter 60 Sun 2' Jupiter 180 XII 10' Secondary: Mercury conjunct MC 5' Moon 120 Jupiter 14'. In the Solar Return Mercury 120 MC, Jupiter 60 MC. In the converse Solar Return, precession corrected, Jupiter exactly on MC! Mercury conjunct radical Jupiter orb 17'. All the return charts casting for Buenos Aires. Quote Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:19 am
38 by pankajdubey Isaac Starkman wrote:I rectified his chart to 17.01.44 ADT Asc 18TAU18'. Jupiter and Mercury conjunct Vertex trine Uranus in 12th, which is ruler of MC. Helio Mercury conjunct MC ! Helio Venus sextile Moon and geo Venus, Part of Fortune 180 Jupiter- all these aspects fit him perfectly. The main primary directions in Topocentric system for the election on 13 March: Jupiter 60 Sun 2' Jupiter 180 XII 10' Secondary: Mercury conjunct MC 5' Moon 120 Jupiter 14'. In the Solar Return Mercury 120 MC, Jupiter 60 MC. In the converse Solar Return, precession corrected, Jupiter exactly on MC! Mercury conjunct radical Jupiter orb 17'. All the return charts casting for Buenos Aires. The topocentrics look good. Would you be able to post the topocentric directions at age 21 and for 2005 when he was not elected pope. Quote Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:35 pm
39 by Isaac Starkman A plausible rectification? Yes, but it is not correct. We have now the recorded birth time: 21.00 ADT- see Astrodatabank for the document. I rectified this birth time to 20.49 ADT Asc 7CAN19'. Now Sun, Mercury & Jupiter on Desc, trine MC. MC is also sextile Node and helio Mercury. In the relocation chart for Rome Jupiter and Mercury on IC., Uranus sextile MC. Primary directions in Topocentric system for the election: MC 0 Venus 4' For the death of Juan Paul II and not elected as Pope: Sun 90 Pluto 1' Neptune 0 Asc 0' Mercury 90 VIII 2' Mars 120 MC 2' XII 0 PAF 3' For becoming Bishop on 20 May 1992: NN 120 Asc 4' Sun 60 NN 4' Jupiter 120 Asc 5' I don't have the month his lung was removed at age 21. Quote Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:07 am
40 by pankajdubey It is AA FOR 2100hrs and we have the white smoke for someone with a 9th lord in detriment. and exchange of sign between Jupiter and Saturn. Suits a Jesuit. He is much more saintly in the sidereal. http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... 0103#80103 9th lord Saturn in 9th. Jupiter in own sign in the 7th. If you have the Jyotish bent with a liking for an Indian sounding ayanamsha. Jupiter is exalted in Navamsha. Quote Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:13 am
41 by james_m 'saintly in sidereal'.. i like that! tom, you have quoted a time for the new pope.. would you like to give a link where you are getting this 510pm time? pankajdubey, where are you getting the AA rating for 5pm? thanks. Quote Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:01 pm
42 by pankajdubey The AA is for time of 2100hrs. An Argentinian astrologer got from birth registry office. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pope_Francis_I. The 5.10 PM time has been corrected to 2100hrs. PD Quote Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:24 pm