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Graham F



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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across this post.

I have a book in Franch by Jean Hiéroz (1943), "Ma Vie devant les Astres", a sort of short astrological biography drawing on the AG and the "chroniqueur" of Morin's life, which I presume refers to the anonymous biography published in 1660, "La Vie de maistre Jean-Baptiste Morin, docteur en médecine et professeur royal aux mathématiques à Paris ". It includes reproductions of Morin's charts from AG.

Morin was born in the centre ("within the fortifications") of the town of Villefranche-sur-Saône ("Francopoli Bellerocentrum") (45°N59' / 04°E43), just north-west of Lyon. As Martin calculates, Hiéroz gives 8:33 LAT on 23/2/1583 (but Martin's geographical guess is a bit off). As Martin says, Morin gives his times by the 24 hour clock starting with previous LAT noon. I think the confusion with the 22nd is that he also (and first) gives chart of the syzygy (New Moon) on the 22nd at 9:43 (i.e. 21:43 from noon on 21st).

According to Hiéroz, Morin used directions from radix, SR, LR, directions from the latter two, transits and elections.

Hiéroz gives, for M's death, the "direction of Jupiter significator, ruler of 8 in 12, to the square of Saturn promissor, ruler of MC and also in 12". (I haven't checked this).
He also gives the SR, directions to SR (SR MC comes to square with radix and SR Moon; ASC comes to conj Moon SR (ruler of 8) and opposite radix Moon); and transits (involving Jupiter, Saturn and Mars).

But he apologises for not having been able to calculate what he considers the clincher, the LR ("la révolution lunaire mortifère") which according to the chronicler, had so frightened Morin the previous month. I looked at this, and as Tom said, the most notable feature is the partile conjunction of the LR ASC and South Node in Cancer, but Tom says Morin did not much attend to the nodes - the exception which proves the rule? There is also the LR MC in radix 12 with LR Moon, and Saturn which has just entered Libra (H6 of illness) to join Mars, opposing H1 radix. LR Mercury partile quincunx to radix ASC from Scorpio, with Venus and Sun. LR Jupiter in LR 12, as Tom pointed out.

Graham


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pankajdubey



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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using Morin' data in Morinus software.
Regio + Naibod key.

I get Zodiacal sq Sat(promissor) to Sun(signifactor) = 72.567 = 1656.10.17

which is not too far away.

For famous people adverse directions relating to MC can be an indicator of death.Saturn is affecting Sun.


Why was Morin so mortified ?

Last time when Mars was zod. sq Moon at age 12(11.435 =1594.09.30) his mother died.
Moon is the 4th lord and this could be the reason why morin thought 4th is house of mother.
When saturn's directon to sun showed up(with no father around) and sun in 12th- he must have thought that it would be him or some severe affliction to his reputation.

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When Saturn's direction to sun showed up(with no father around) and sun in 12th- he must have thought that it would be him or some severe affliction to his reputation.


Morin had no problems using exaltation rulers. Aries rises in his chart and the Sun is the exaltation ruler of the ASC. A direction to the exaltation ruler of the ASC could easily be seen as a threat to the native from disease (12th house). He also saw the Sun as the life force particularly if it were connected to the ascendant.
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