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mystery chart exercise dec 21 2012
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sometimes the crowd is wrong,so I stick to 1 and 2 as second choice


Indeed and all the more Kudos to you Damon if your right. Having said that I think chart 1 is least likely to be a public performer. I suspect chart 1 was a writer and most likely lived out their Lunar Leonine drama through that medium.

If I am wrong and its chart 1 I am going to eat my wooly christmas hat.



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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Damon wrote:
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Sometimes the crowd is wrong,so I stick to 1 and 2 as second choice


Indeed and all the more Kudos to you Damon if your right. Having said that I think chart 1 is least likely to be a public performer. I suspect chart 1 was a writer and lived out their Lunar Leonine drama through that medium.

If I am wrong and its chart 1 I am going to eat my wooly christmas hat.



Mark


An I ll eat my words and wash them down with grog to forget Tongue Out
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damon,

Just a question that I am curious about. On the mundane forum you have made a few posts using the sidereal zodiac (Krishnamurti ayanamsa) yet here you seem to be judging the charts tropically? For example you describe the ASC and Moon in chart 1 as Leo yet sidereally they are in Cancer:???:

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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Damon,

Just a question that I am curious about. On the mundane forum you have made a few posts using the sidereal zodiac (Krishnamurti ayanamsa) yet here you seem to be judging the charts tropically? For example you describe the ASC and Moon in chart 1 as Leo yet sidereally they are in Cancer:???:

Mark


I dont use Sideral. Samva group uses it aparently with success but not me at least not yet Smile
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification. You have obviously been presenting a lot of their information. I dont know if you are aware but it basically looks like its your own work the way you have presented it. Anyway, I dont want to distract this thread any further.

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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello
I've posted my guess in the sidereal forum, charts kindly posted by James. Promise I didn't look at any tropical answers first, but I now see I have a few heavyweights rooting for the same chart!
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mark and james,

not beeing able to resist your charming and repeated individual invitations Very Happy
I should like to give my option:

This mystery question and its resolution could be a "proof" for whole sign houses or at least equal houses because Venus ist lost by the others in the twelfth.

But I am fasctinated by Mercury, Lord 1, 2 and 10 in the tenth, even though still combust, yet in his own signe or domicile, and Venus, also in her domicile, Lady of 10, 3 and POF, all forming a very nice Planets Picture around the MC.

So without more delineations now: The third chart is the actor's.
(If there are more actors than one represented by the 3 charts, the second could be an option too; but not the first in my opinion.)

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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first


Second choice after the first? Lets get this right. Tropically, you want Chart 1 as your first choice but have chart 2 as your back up. Fine. Except you want to have your cake and eat it with a separate sidereal vote now that allows you to have chart 3 too! Not bad going as you said you didn't do sidereal yesterday. I love your style Damon. lol Laughing

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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Damon wrote:
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If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first


Second choice after the first? Lets get this right. Tropically, you want Chart 1 as your first choice but have chart 2 as your back up. Fine. Except you want to have your cake and eat it with a separate sidereal vote now that allows you to have chart 3 too! Not bad going as you said you didn't do sidereal yesterday. I love your style Damon. lol Laughing

Mark

Damn! I should have known that second choice always comes after the first Confused
No the second chart int my back up. My choice has alway been betwen the first or the third

I am curious to see if Vedic works better anyway Laughing
I simply followed the rules of SA as taught in their free course here www.yournetastrologer.com
I dont normally use it,but when Im stuck...
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..
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thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..


Chart 3 I assume? Its makes sense now with all that air in the chart!

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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
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thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..
Chart 3 I assume? Its makes sense now with all that air in the chart! Mark
Yep my cousin,a pilot, is a gemini with Moon in aquarius
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was dead wrong about the first chart... I don't know how I thought that Sun was cadent? I must have mistaken the 5th cusp for 4th... Laughing Mars is also angular, if I am to take into account the 5 degree rule (or 7 for any angular cusp), regardless of Sign boundary... Both are connected to MC in Aries by rulership, both see each other by Sign, the also see Jupiter by Sign, who rules 5th WS, but I can't be sure that is enough to be an actor.

Connecting Mars to harsh professions and Sun to leaders, I think the native can be a general, a chef, a doctor...

Because the rulers of PoF are afflicted (Venus in fall and cadent, Saturn peregrine, Rx and cadent), I have looked for the Part of Spirit, which is in Taurus, close to 11th cusp. Now we can see Venus, ruler of PoS, in 5th Sign after that Part, with the Moon angular and Jupiter in 11th... still, I'm not sure if that makes a successful person, but at least there is an indication for artistic endeavour.

So my first vote goes to chart 2, then chart 1. Smile When James told us that one of them is an engineer and a pioneer in aviation, I knew it should be the 3rd chart, so I discard it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity you told us so soon about the third chart, sidereally or just working with angles and aspects it also would be pioneer/engineer (not so sure about how I'd have seen aviator, but I'd have ruled out 1, and I'd already guessed 2 for the actor).
Better put us out of our misery now, as some are implying they got ti wrong it's because you didn't give the right details!
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