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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Mass murder in Newtown, Connecticut, USA Reply with quote

Good evening,

According to an article in Spiegel on Line, the event was notified at 9h41 US-EST to the local police. All data is from Janus software. Here is the chart set to this time, tropical zodiac of the northern hemisphere, whole sign places:



Here are honours and debilities, point system of Mr William Lilly:



Here are the details of the above table:

Dignity Calculations

Mercury in mutual reception to Jupiter by rulership
Mercury +5
Jupiter +5

Mercury in mutual reception to Jupiter by term
Mercury +2
Jupiter +2

Mars in mutual reception to Saturn by rulership
Mars +5
Saturn +5

Sun is trip ruler of its sign +3
Sun is in house 12 -5
Sun is swift +2

Moon is peregrine -5
Moon is in its detriment -5
Moon is in house 1 +5
Moon is swift +2
Moon is free of suns beams +5
Moon is waxing +2

Mercury is in its detriment -5
Mercury is in house 12 -5
Mercury is direct +4
Mercury is swift +2
Mercury is oriental -2
Mercury is free of suns beams +5

Venus is trip ruler of its sign +3
Venus is in its detriment -5
Venus is in house 11 +4
Venus is direct +4
Venus is swift +2
Venus is oriental -2
Venus is free of suns beams +5

Mars is exalted ruler of its sign +4
Mars is ruler of its term +2
Mars is in house 1 +5
Mars is direct +4
Mars is swift +2
Mars is occidental -2
Mars is free of suns beams +5

Jupiter is in its detriment -5
Jupiter is in house 6 -2
Jupiter is retrograde -5
Jupiter is swift +2
Jupiter is occidental -2
Jupiter is free of suns beams +5

Saturn is peregrine -5
Saturn is in house 11 +4
Saturn is direct +4
Saturn is swift +2
Saturn is oriental +2
Saturn is free of suns beams +5

Here are Star Interpretations:

Star Interpretations

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Sun conjunct Ras Alhague 0 23'
Ras Alhague, in Ophiuchus, is "the head of the serpent charmer," is associated with perversion and depravity. Nature of Saturn and Venus.

Jupiter conjunct Aldebaran 0 13'
Aldebaran, in Taurus, is "follower" of the Pleiades and the bright right eye of the bull. It is the brightest star in Taurus and of the nature of Mars. It is associated with public or military honours and courage. It can also denote extraordinary energy and ambition. In conjunction with the malefics could bring danger and loss through water, eg. by floods, natural disasters, drowning.

Saturn conjunct Khambalia 0 53'
Khambalia is a star on the Virgin's left foot. Shows unreliability, uncertainty and change. Can also indicate arguments, impulsiveness and sudden violence. Nature of Mercury and Mars.

Midheaven conjunct Agena 0 57'
Agena (Hadar), in Centaurus, is the 'knee' of the centaur, a close double star (separation 1"). It signifies happiness and success, good health and prestige. Of the nature of the benefics, Jupiter and Venus.

Midheaven conjunct Unukalhai 0 45'
Unukalhai, (Unuk), in Serpens (Caput) - The Serpent (Head), is in "the serpent's neck." An unlucky star, with the nature of Mars and Saturn. It is associated with accidents and violence, poisonings and infections.

Short comment

As one might expect, the angular Malefics Exalted Mars and Saturn are the strongest planets in the chart and in mutual reception with each other by domicile! Ascendant, Moon in detriment and peregrine, Medium Coeli and Venus in detriment are averse to Jupiter who is cadent, retrograde and in detriment. Mercury also in detriment and the Sun are posited in the cadent 12th house, a school where teachers, pupils and personnel were enclosed. The Ascendant, ruled by Saturn, is weakened before entering the next sign, also ruled by Saturn. Luna is proceeding from a sextile with Saturn to a conjunction with Mars. The fixed stars underscore the extremely evil qualities reflected in an eloquent chart fitting a very tragic event.

Best regards,

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was at 9.30 that they called the police, so it started a bit earlier
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Ascendent conjunct Mars Reply with quote

Good evening,

According to Janus, the Ascendant was conjunct Mars at 9h12m18s EST at Newtown, CT, USA.

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ascendent conjunct Mars Reply with quote

lihin wrote:
Good evening,

According to Janus, the Ascendant was conjunct Mars at 9h12m18s EST at Newtown, CT, USA.

Best regards,

lihin


http://mashable.com/2012/12/14/ryan-lanza/

And there seems to be confusion about his identity
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As one might expect, the angular Malefics Exalted Mars and Saturn are the strongest planets in the chart and in mutual reception with each other by domicile!


They sure would expect it. They've been in mutual reception for months and they are angular every day at some point and they will both continue to be angular simultaneously for weeks to come. Why today?

And yes there has been some confusion over the identity of the shooter. He was originally reported to be one Ryan Lanza of Hoboken NJ, a community across the river from New York City and about an hour to an hour and a half drive to Newtown, Connecticut. It's now been announced that Ryan is the shooter's brother. He has no connection to the shooting. The shooter has been identified as Adam Lanza, age 24, no address given so far, but he apparently lived in Connecticut.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the NY Post, the police received their first call at 9::36 AM EST. Police arrived at the school at 9:46 AM and by then it was over,
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not any help in prevention but timed astrologically. The MC of the Nov 28 eclipse in Newtown was 21605'. Transits at the time of the call were:

Saturn on the MC at 21625'
Mars-Pluto midpoint on the Asc at 21620'
Moon-Pluto midpoint on the Asc at 21707.

For the NM on the 13th transit Saturn was at 21617', Mars-Pluto midpoint on the Asc at 21553'.

I was too shaken last night to study the chart . Taking a look at it this morning I see that eclipse Venus was on the MC at 21619' and under duress from the transits of Saturn, Mars and Pluto.

Another fact which must be noted, even though it is puzzling, is that the midpoint of transiting Jupiter and Uranus was on the IC when the MC was 21622' as well as eclipse Moon-Uranus and Jupiter-Uranus midpoints being within 2 degrees of the eclipse IC. Ebertin had dubbed the Jupiter- Uranus combination the "thank the lord" combination.

Bob




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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The June 4, 2012, eclipse chart for Newtown.

Bob



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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Exact time(s), Dwarf Planets? Reply with quote

Good morning,

Could someone familiar with USofA mass media please post links here pointing to information on the exact time(s) of the event(s)? Occurrence is not identical to information, although some hold the opinion that public consciousness prevails over the factual event time. To me the former has to do with a 'collective mind', the latter with the properties of the event.

Might the sequence of perfections of the Moon's aspects (Saturn, Mars) be a candidate for one explanation of 'why at that place and time'?

From one astrological perspective a time of say 9h29 EST or somewhat earlier would indicate Mars within 5 degrees of the Ascendant, thus in the 1st 'classical' field (takes 5 degrees prior to Ascendant as beginning of 1st field, then calculates the others using Alcabitius) with very high activeness. My working hypothesis is that the mass murderer(s) began to carry out the deeds, including ex. gr. travel to the site, before perfection of the conjunction Ascendant - Mars.

Given that since 2003, nearly 10 years ago, in addition to Pluto the Dwarf Planets Haumea, Makemake and Eris (Eris has a mass 30 % greater than Pluto!) have been discovered and Ceres (whose place was reserved by Herr Johannes Kepler in his Harmonices Mundi two centuries before her astronomical discovery), once a planet, then as asteroid, has been promoted to dwarf planet status, with Sedna a candidate, the 'Pluto-happy' approach of much late 20th century astrology now looks anachronistic. Its astronomical paradigm has died. To appear coherent, it seems one should include all the Dwarf Planets or none in astrological analyses of events such as the one featured in this thread. If one prefers to include some and exclude other Dwarf Planets, according to which criteria?

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the first police call came in at 9:36 AM EST the incident must have begun shortly before that, no more than five minutes, probably less. That is about as accurate as anyone is going to get.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Bolon Yokte Kuh Reply with quote

is the Mayan 'force' that accompanies the 13Baktun event ... warlike, transformative ... I believe it to be an accurate 9th century Mayan prediction of the Mars Transits (Stele 6 @ Tortuega) ... from the mars capricorn ingress on november 16 until its egress from aquarius on Groundhog Day 2013. Bolon means "9" in the native language -- Yokte has something to do with foot and taken as a type of empowerment ... like Hermes TRImagistros ... -- there are 9 levels in teh Mayan underworld ... pandemonium/all hell connotations to the word

the m/r are certainly empowerments ...

You noted the M/R -- well they are even worse -- XMas gift on 25 December, Mars ingresss Aquarius, where it will still be in M/R with Saturn in Scorpio ... and -- ta da -- Uranus in Aries ... and then, guess what -- from Jan 20 the Sun will also be in M/R with Uranus in Aries ...

And -- for those who grant dignity to Aquarian Mercury as I do, uranus being a higher vibe of merc ... at mercury's capricorn ingress 31DEC 2:04 pm UT, (have we fallen off the fiscal cliff yet, well, if not -- Geronimo) Xmas mars ingress in M/R with New Year's mercury ingress ... considering Obama's re inauguration(s) are in the midst of this madness, and an translation of the Tortuega stele reads a glyph as as investiture ... rather then 'descent' ... the 17th of January, Mars conjuncts US Moon (I use 7GE34.x rising) and Obama's ascendent -- Mercury ... Mighty Mouth, with the respect for human ceremony and event that it showed on N Year's ... enters Aquarius on January 19 timely for some inspired speechifying at both inaugurations ... Sunday Jan 20 for the 'investiture' and Monday 21 for the public event when O is having a lunar return.

Mercury enters the murkier waters of pisces Feb 5 ... and will be in M/R w Jupiter in Gemini at the 6th degree of Gemini the degree of the lunar eclipse ... Sun transits 18 AQ Feb 6&7 which is around the time of the State of the Union speech ...

Four Horsemen mounted, locked and loaded
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unique_astrology wrote:
Not any help in prevention but timed astrologically. The MC of the Nov 28 eclipse in Newtown was 21605'. Transits at the time of the call were: Saturnon the MC at 21625' Mars-Pluto midpointon the Asc at 21620' Moon-Pluto midpointon the Asc at 21707. For the NMon the 13th transit Saturn was at 21617', Mars-Pluto midpointon the Asc at 21553'.

And guess what,Adam Lanza,born on 22 April 1992 has Moon,Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn too
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lanza's family has roots in New Hampshire. I haven't seen a definitive birth place, given his age and what I've read Kingston New Hampshire or thereabouts is a strong possibility.

42 N 46
71 W 03

Without a birth time we cannot be certain of the Moon's position and millions were born with Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn.

EDIT: I did check and the Moon was in Capricorn all day on April 22 1992, counting from midnight to midnight EDT. Also Uranus and Neptune were within one degree of each other (57 minutes at noon local time to be exact). Of note is that Uranus was making its station and the conjunction was in a partile square to Venus in Aries (again at noon local time). Still Uranus and Neptune move very slowly so depending on the orb used the conjunction would be in effect for a long time. Still this conjunction is very tight, square a planet that it would only square for a short time, and Uranus is making its station. While not unique to any individual, this, plus other factors narrow things a bit.


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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Fixed Star of Newtown, CN, USA Reply with quote

Good evening,

Referring to a mundane technique explained in a parallel thread, the current 'horizontal fixed star' at the latitude 41n25' of Newtown, CN, USA, is the bright (apparent magnitude 1.84) Alkaid, Eta Ursae Majoris, declination 49n20'. According to Claudius Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos, Book I, it has the quality of Mars.

In the Wikipedia article on Alkaid one reads:

Quote:
The name derives from the Arabic phrase meaning "The leader of the daughters of the bier" (قائد بنات نعش qā'id bināt naʿsh). The daughters of the bier, i.e. the mourning maidens, are the three stars of the handle of the Big Dipper, Alkaid, Mizar, and Alioth; while the four stars of the bowl, Megrez, Phecda, Merak, and Dubhe, are the bier.


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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not real big on heavy use of the nodes, but this might be worth mentioning. The lunar eclipse referred to above by damon occurs on the nodal axis in the 2012 Aries ingress. Then in the eclipse chart the malefic south node is on Algol (piled up corpses). Whole Sign fans will note that this node-Algol conjunction occurs in the 5th sign of children.
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