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Hadda Index; Profections; & Parts or Lots

 
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Hadda Index; Profections; & Parts or Lots Reply with quote

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Hadda Index; Profections; & Parts or Lots Reply with quote

These are all specific Tājika techniques, and the names are Sanskritized Arabic. They entered India some time between the 9th and the 13th century; the earliest preserved text to mention them is probably Samarasiṃha's Tājikatantrasāra (1274?). You won't have an easy time finding that, though (and if you do, please let me know!). For several centuries, the most common introductory text has been Nīlakaṇṭha's Tājikanīlakaṇṭhī, which has been translated into English several times. (The translations are often quite loose, however, and you may have to try several alternative spellings to find the books.)
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I checked a few editions of the Tājikanīlakaṇṭhī, and they contain the deviations you mention for Gemini and Sagittarius, but not for Cancer. They also reverse the first two terms (of Mercury and Venus) in Aquarius; but the Hāyanaratna, which claims to get its version from the Tājikanīlakaṇṭhī, has them 'right'.

Obviously this sort of information is very easily corrupted in transmission, which raises the question of how unanimous the Greek and Arabic sources are on the matter of the Egyptian terms. I can't answer that, but perhaps someone on the Traditional forum could.

The thing about Tājika astrology in India is that it has mainly been used for annual revolutions (varṣaphala) and horary astrology (praśna). But the annual techniques do include consideration of the natal radix, and the terms (hadda) are used there too. I believe that goes for the Lots (sahama) as well.

May I ask which book you are using for the haddas?
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

varuna2 wrote:
Can you clarify, does the Hayanaratna have Gemini and Sagittarius terms reversed as well in the same way as was listed above, in comparison with the Egyptian Terms, or did you mean the Hayanaratna has everything listed identically with the Egyptian Terms, therefore correcting all of the 'errors'.

The Hāyanaratna has these terms reversed in the way you mention (but not those of Cancer). Thanks for the information about Behari's book.
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