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Thank you for putting me right, Goca!
It is a good thing someone is paying attention! :'

Germany - Portugal, 21.45 CEST Arena Lviv. (+3)
Odds: 2,10 3,30 3,75
Asc 23SG47 MC 25LI41 Moon 29AQ40 POF 4VI07
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - not radical?
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Mercury, who is lord of the hour, an L7, casts a sextile through signs of long ascension to POF, whom he disposes in Virgo. The Moon is still, within the orb of her body, in an exact square with Jupiter, lord of the 1st house, though signs of short ascension. If the square through signs of short ascension turns to a sextile and the sextile through signs of long ascension turns to a square, then maybe Germany will prevail.

I can see our approaches are slightly different. When there is no home team, I would give POF and MC to the favourite by odds - and then the ascendant. I'm not into the suit color stuff, but I'll be watching with interest - you've been right before! :D

I don't want to commit jugdement on this chart, seeing that my mind already is in a clutter and the mixture of testimonies and approach. :???:
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Andrew Bevan wrote:Thank you for putting me right, Goca!
It is a good thing someone is paying attention! :'

Germany - Portugal, 21.45 CEST Arena Lviv. (+3)
Odds: 2,10 3,30 3,75
Asc 23SG47 MC 25LI41 Moon 29AQ40 POF 4VI07
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - not radical?
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Mercury, who is lord of the hour, an L7, casts a sextile through signs of long ascension to POF, whom he disposes in Virgo. The Moon is still, within the orb of her body, in an exact square with Jupiter, lord of the 1st house, though signs of short ascension. If the square through signs of short ascension turns to a sextile and the sextile through signs of long ascension turns to a square, then maybe Germany will prevail.

I can see our approaches are slightly different. When there is no home team, I would give POF and MC to the favourite by odds - and then the ascendant. I'm not into the suit color stuff, but I'll be watching with interest - you've been right before! :D

I don't want to commit jugdement on this chart, seeing that my mind already is in a clutter and the mixture of testimonies and approach. :???:
Andrew...this is yesterdays chart. :-?
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Andrew...this is yesterdays chart. Confused
Actually, Daz, the chart is right. Do you see the moon at Aquarius' last degrees?
It's almost same as your previous post HOL vs DEN. :)

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Yes you are correct, although the Moon is separating so in Germany's case it may prevent a victory for them, the slight favourites, whereas it applies to favourites ruler, JU in Hollands case so I expect a win for them. I just think the Holland game is easier to predict astrologically whereas the Germany game is more of a confusion of influences.

lol Denmark have just scored..its going to be an interesting evening. :shock:
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Today's results:
Netherlands - Denmark 0-1
Germany - Portugal 1-0
Goca wrote:I would asign Germany to DSC ruler, Me in Pisces as they wear white sport kit. Moon is VOC so favorite wins or draw. Favorite is Germany, accidental dignities do not differ so much, but Antiscia POF is right on IC so I think Germany will win.
Well spotted, Goca! :'

Because I am not using the color method, I only find myself asking whether it could be that POF in aspect to it's dispositor was received as a benefic, and this is why the favourite won. In this case, I would ask whether POF, as a sensitive point, responds slightly differently to the significations of planet and aspect than say the asc.

It could be that you were correct, Goca, in assigning Germany to the descendent - but then my question is why they received the descendant, whether it was because you were successful with the color method, or successfully ascribed Portugal to to ascendant, i.e. Sagittarius asc with Jupiter in the femine sign Taurus (with translates into Pisces).

The antiscia of POF on the IC was another interesting point you included. I noticed it before the match, but wasn't sure whether it was good for the favourite because of the initiate nature of POF, or for the team signified by the 7th, or for the underdog due to the opposition to the MC.

I felt a bit sorry for Portugal (and felt like weeping) because I thought they put on a good fight and deserved a better outcome.
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Another few small reflections...

Gomez became matchwinner for Germany, scoring the only goal of the match. This occured in the last minute before he was due to be substituted. Does this have something to do with Jupiter in 30th degree of Taurus?

If Jupiter is the natural significator of Pisces and Portugal, I would like to mention my association of Pleiades with Aladdin's Lamp, or a Genie trapped in a bottle, because there is a wizard in Ronaldo, and his frustration must be tremendous from not having his potential released to be able to show his magic! :o

But then, can Jupiter both bear meaning for Gomez, as matchwinner, and for Portugal? :???:
Is it the fact that the chart is not radical and Mercury, LHr, rules the 7th house tht mixes everything up? Lastly, when the favourite can win from the descendant, should this be considered a fortitude?
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Sunday's Big Match!

Spain - Italy, 18.00 CEST, PGE Arena, Gda?sk (+2)
Odds: 1,82 3,45 4,80
Asc 15SC55 MC 6VI16 Moon 11PI06 POF 6LE50
Day Sun, Hour Mercury - not radical?
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The chart appears not to be radical, but the Moon, ascendant and Mercury, Lord of the Hour, are all in the triplicity of water. Mercury, LHr, is sextile the Midheaven and POF is intercepted in Leo on the Me/MC-midpoint. Spain are the title holders. I am looking to see whether they get their way with Italy this evening.
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Probably-possibly a goal around 18:40.
Looks bad for Spain at around 19:15 - 19:20.
Might even be decisive.
My guess: it will be Italy.
Moon in Pisces on IC by the end of the game over Madrid.
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It could be that you were correct, Goca, in assigning Germany to the descendent - but then my question is why they received the descendant,
I use color method in all matches because, ASC for one team, and DSC for another team are all about apperance, that is the first impression what we get when ASC or DSC team run on playground and than we usually say: "White" are our team, and "red" are "enemy"(for example). And because Me and Can are related to white color I asign Germany to DSC because of their white sport kit. Ju, ruler of DSC is related to red color so Ju represent Portugal.
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I'm trying out Lunlumo's method, I probably interpret in my personal way so I'm not sure everyone will reach the same conclusions but its an experiment anyway...I've more or less tossed in the towel using other methods although Andrew and Goca seem to be doing okay so far.

First of all its a bit of a headache to do and the timings aren't exact obviously. When Ireland finish it should be around 9.45 pm for them and Sun is on the DC with SA applying MC. I looked at the interpretation for Sun and it speaks an emotional reaction of anger & disappointment so I took this to mean Ireland feel an injustice at the result, being deprived of a good result. However, the chart for Zagreb is lacklustre and less angular so my take on it is..

A win or draw for Ireland.

Spain v Italy have similar charts but Spain's is just a little more angular so whilst Roma JU is in mid 6H, Madrid JU is on cusp H7/DC.

A win for Spain.
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