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Separating Aspects in Directions
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Anghelos Theon



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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's wonderful! Smile
The resolution of this aspect was simple because Venus and Saturn arent hylegical.

But the Rule says that in Directions, hylegical places are most important and significators of forecast. In short words, if separating aspect falls with a hylegical one, how to do?

Im thinking, for example, Saturn (p) on ASC (n).

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anghelos Theon wrote:
It 's good.
It's coherent.

So, in your experience,
separating aspects are irrelevant for forecast?

AQ


Irrelevant... no, not irrelevant, as they may provide context. I see it as chain, supose Moon meets Saturn by opposition and the native has a financial breakdown at some point, what started that may seem irrelevant, but the context spam over a long time untill pit bottom is achieved... if the next aspect is positive, it may mean an equally slow recovery, not necessarily a windfall counteracting the sore past. If it was a healthy issue, this would be even more the case... so, you need previous aspects to at least help you to pinpoint what may come next with a greater degree of precision, but being direct, yes, I would never say that a separating aspect may mean something to come, although it may mean something present but still not obvious or finished, as it may have set a situation that is propicious for something to happen in line with what is unfolding, a relevant event only according to our eyes, but nothing more than a natural consequence of a seemingly irrelevant astrological symbol working as a trigger we missed in the past as related, seen or not seen... especially if there is aversion, as the trigger points to something the native could not know to have come in motion.

So, a seemingly irrelevant triggered event in the past may be the link to another something not anymore present in a clear fashion in the symbolism of the looked upon chart. But it may well be present in another type of chart (SR, profection, PD, so on and so forth). That's why the more complex the chart and the higher we are on the hierarchy of charts, the more charts we have to use, the simplest approach being horary, that generally uses but only one chart, and the most complex being mundane, that necessitates a lot of charts and checking through.

For example, there is a theory that a primary direction of the terms do not end it's effect untill the term ends it's motion and hands authority to another ruler of another term. The same rationale can be applied to a secondary progressed chart, that aspect we look and it's theme does not end untill the planets truly separate by orb, one could say.

Also, some planets tend to produce singled out, sudden events with a lot of impact, like Mars. Some others produces chronical events that lasts a long time, and we never know exactly where it's influence truly began and where it finally ended, like Saturn. This can also be noticed by the type of sign as well, where Cardinal planets produces singled out events that repeats itselves a lot, and fixed signs produces events that start slow and lasts for what seems an eternity, while mutable is inbetween those two.
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Anghelos Theon



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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I agree.
It's my idea, about this.

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But it may well be present in another type of chart (SR, profection, PD, so on and so forth).


Exact!
It's same problem or mechanism.
Separating aspects can be in SR, too.

In short words, separating aspects are effects of previous "events" while applying aspects are events in potential. So, in forecast they arent in progress.

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