John wayne Gacy

Mark · Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject:

Seems like Volguine was quite correct. Hecate was the dark moon goddess linked to the dark or new moon. Neo-pagans today seem to be very aware of this:

http://www.hecate.awebspider.com/darkmoonmagic.htm

Wikipedia on the goddess Hecate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate

She is linked to crossroads, night, death, ghosts and witches which would fit the dark of the new Moon.

Volguine links the new moon in nativities to all kinds of tragedy, misfortune or pathology. In particular he cites early deaths, accident victms, murder victims, murderers, mentally ill, sexual deviants etc. You get the picture!

Mark
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Thank you, Mark.

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I started a reply over 24 hours ago and then set it aside. Here it is. The New Moon was what grabbed my attention first:

What's interesting is the dark of the New Moon. The Sun/Moon conjunction is in the 4th house, the midnight house. There's some imagery of the dark and hidden here. Of course, the same Sun/Moon 4th house conjunction would have different imagery and energy behind it in Aries than it does in Pisces, so obviously the signs do play a part. [I had started out with a comment on not giving too much importance to the signs, in reference to the recent Aquarius topic.]

The 4th house is the house of the home, father, basements, and buried things. The AstroDatabank note says “Gacy had confessed to burying most of his 33 victims under his house, with four dumped in the river . . .” and . . . “ . . . he was the son of a machinist, a drunk who beat his wife and terrorized their three kids.” Yes, that angular Mars is going to be a major player and it is applying conjunct Jupiter, (traditional) ruler of the 4th house. Jupiter is also the Lord of the Asc so it will be very descriptive of the chart native. [What I had in mind was the Mars/Jupiter combination.]

jorge · Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 124

Mark · Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject:

Jorge wrote:

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Mark · Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject:

Margherita wrote:

varuna2 · Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 287 Location: Lemuria

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jorge · Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 124

http://www.astrology-and-science.com/a-murd2.htm a good example of how astrologers misjudged Gacys chart.They ignored angular planets. What beats me is that people identified with Marcel Petiot s chart. The guy had Scorpio rising and Mars conjunct Pluto in 8. WSH would show it more clearly with Mars in 8 and Saturn out of sect http://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Marcel_Petiot

as an add up would you be fooled by this?

http://www.astrology-and-science.com/d-effe2.htm

varuna2 · Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 287 Location: Lemuria

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jorge · Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 124

the reason we have to use statistic or scientific approach is to avoid being misled. Please read 5.3 of this interview http://www.astrozero.co.uk/astroscience/phillintv.pdf

see also 6.5 on analogy

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Deb · Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject:

I've removed a number of posts that followed on from this point. Apologies to those affected but I'm sure that anyone who commented in response will understand that some of the comments made by one poster (whose account has now been closed) were unacceptable.

bjorkstrand · Joined: 29 May 2013 Posts: 9 Location: canada

The red variable scheat has got a nasty reputation.
Sun conjunct

John Gacy
Eichmann
Joseph Mengele

Other red variables like Mira(omicron cetus) are quite deadly.

Jim