Football May 2012

GB · Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 150 Location: UK

Congratulations Goca on getting the result but, like Andrew, I was not sure what you meant by:

daz madrigal · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 331

Jupiter rules Man City rather than the MC.

Whatever..I feel that the home system doesn't work, if we use the favourite's ruling LI then it or Goca's system seems to work better from experience.
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Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

This is the perfect pit for research. Keep the ideas coming! Thumbs up

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Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Aftermath:

How did Liverpool beat Chelsea 4-1 in this chart?

Could this be a good way to work with the problem as to track down the result and scoreline? I'm not sure it can be done, but one testimony would be if Chelsea were shown as scoring - and Liverpool much stronger. I notice that the Moon needs 4# to leave Sagittarius, while Venus, L7, only needs 1# to trine Saturn. Confused

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Janis Valkovskis · Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 399

In previous replies I suggested to monitor the condition of Jupiter and Chelsea's play together with the Moon's transits through the signs sensitive for Jupiter.

I am quite sure that Chelsea is ruled by Jupiter and Liverpool is Scorpio ruled by Mars.

As we see, Scorpio is rising which in general is a strong testimony for Liverpool. Mars and Jupiter are in the same triplicity (ruled by Venus in Gemini), exchanging reception from each other's detriment. This, in general, is an indication for draw. The triplicity ruler Venus is in Gemini, in the 10th sign from Mars but in detriment of Jupiter, this swings the balance in favour of Mars. Jupiter is combust but not so close to be fatal.

The key is the Moon. Moon is in Sagittarius which must favour Chelsea. It at least must be a testimony that Chelsea would score. The Moon is separating from Venus (dispositor of Jupiter, placed in his detriment and is applying to Mercury, the enemy of Jupiter and dispositor of Mars. This was the crucial testimony, deadly sure.

Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Rosenborg - Odd Grenland, 20.00 CEST
Odds: 1,40 4,50 7,50
Asc 9SC50 MC 7VI31 Moon 27TA30 POF 7SC31
Day Sun, Hour Moon - radical by agreement powers with asc

Rosenborg should get this one and score atleast 2 goals.
Mars, L1, is in the 10th and * the Asc. POF is sextile the MC.
Mercury, L10, is in the 7th and mr. Venus L7 - whether this allows Odd Grenland to score a goal will be interesting to see. The Moon is VOC, but is applying to the Sun in the next sign. In horary I think this would signify an agreement on a matter that had been through a revision.
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Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Ok - here's one that didn't work out as expected:

Rosenborg - Odd Grenland 0-0
Of course, the Moon was in the same triplicity as Mars, Lord of the ascendant. This is one of our favourite cues for the draw. The Moon is special in this chart - also by her relationship to the ascendant, where is sympathetic by powers, yet she still receives her fall.

The sextiles related to in the above post are cast through signs of long ascension. Rosenborg had the expectations but were given a bad experience.

If we come across aonther match with a similar type of radicality, or relationship between the Lord of the Hour and the radical ascendant - please remind me to make a comparison. Thumbs up

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Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

I was watching the 18.00 CEST game in Norway yesterday, there was one that stood out;

Honefoss - Molde, 18.00 CEST 60N10, 10E18
Day Moon, Hour Jupiter - radical by agreement of powers

The outstanding factor is POF 26CP42 trine Jupiter, LHr, at 26TA45. This should have been a winning factor for the favourites, Molde (Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's boys..) yet the aspect is cast through signs of short ascension.
The match ended 1-1, and was afterwards called 'The Greatest Robbery of All Time'. Molde did everything right and were all over Honefoss with the one 100% chance after another. Yet, they couldn't succeed in getting the deciding goal.

This would be the nature of the trine through signs of short of ascension - looking good, but weakened in delivery. Shocked

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Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Another odd match this evening in the Norwegian elite division. I just want to pass on my learning;

Fredrikstad - Viking, 19..00 CEST 59N13, 10E57
Odds: 2,80 3,40 2,40
Asc 9SC47 MC 1VI35 Moon 19VI40 POF 20AQ44
Day Mars, Hour Venus - agreement powers asc.

Fredrikstad have had a very poor start to the season and are trailing in 2nd last position in the league. The guests are favourites.
Venus, L7, is LHr and in the same sign at Mercury, L10. The Moon in the 10th applies to Venus by square. And Venus is trine POF - but again through signs of short ascension.

One would be apt to believe that the guest, who were the favorites, would get it - and again (like yesterday's match), Viking had ball possesion 63% of the time. Yet the trine through signs of short ascension did not live up to expectation and Fredrikstad won the match 3-0. Shocked

I do want to have this one in our collection of observations.
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Tzadde · Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 137

Andrew Bevan · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 4232 Location: Oslo, Norway

Thank you for your participation. I am not quite sure which significators you are giving to the home team and which significators are for the guests. Who is Liverpool and who is Chelsea? Venus is given victory, and Lord of the MC in opposite parties house, effictively taking the first team's victory? There might be some interesting points here, but I am not sure whether I am understanding your way of thinking...

Liverpool were favourite by odds that were quoted as: 2.09 3.53 3.34

Football continues to puzzle me, but then everyone seems to be doing it at the same time. I would be happy if it were possible to sort out and put aside all the uncertain ones and stick with the safe ones - or is there simply too much going on?
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Tzadde · Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 137

I was thinking that Asc is the home team and the Desc the guests. But I noticed that chart has Liverpool under date and time, this is the home team? If so, then I think I should bring up the issue of Venus' motion. Back then, when she began to be retrograde, I noticed that she had a perfect trine with Saturn, but the trine didn't become exact. It was only three minutes apart before being exact by minute and second, then Venus began to move in retrograde motion. So this might be the "culprit".

One question, tough: did Chelsea do the first goal, then Liverpool did goal four times in a string? If so, this might be the explanation given by Venus' refranation.
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