Andre Barbault on combustion

jorge · Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 124

http://www.andrebarbault.com/combustion.htm

Hello
According to one of the most famous european astrologers, theres no such thing as combustion .
The Sun makes the other planet shine. In his own experience armistices tend to happen under sun -jupiter or sun-venus conjunctions.
If you can read French check the link. Some of his articles are also in articles.english.
Having had many friends born in 65-66 I can vouch for what he says about the Pluto-Uranus in Virgo generation too

lihin · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 423 Location: Mount Kailash

Good morning,

Monsieur André Barbault published several mundane predictions decades ago that did not come true. Nevertheless, he had the courage to elaborate and publish predictions at all in contrast to many of his colleagues.

From the perspective of Hellenistic and Mediaeval astrologies, no single planetary honour or debility, essential or accidental (see Aristotle for underlying definitions), can be taken on a stand-alone, isolated basis, but rather must be evaluated in the context of the overall configurations. There are the essential states of 'in the Chariot' and 'on the Throne' deemed to mitigate combustion and 'under Helios' rays'.

These latter states repose on the nocturnal and twilight invisibility of planets so afflicted. The exact periods of such invisibility may differ from the general values expressed in ecliptical degrees assigned in Hellenistic and Mediaeval astrologies.

Best regards,

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margherita · Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 1259 Location: Rome, Italy

Don't forget Barbault depends on Morin of Villefranche. If I'm not wrong, Morin says the same.

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james_m · Joined: 05 Dec 2011 Posts: 934 Location: vancouver island

lihin,

André Barbault made some good predictions too and was kind enough to elaborate the basis for them too.. personally i thought he was brilliant..

margherita,

i didn't know that, but now that you mention it, it makes sense.. they were both french.. i was never made aware of morin until very recently, perhaps as his books had not been translated into english in a big way until very recently with holdens work.. i know baldwin did the translation in 76, but i never saw his translation being promoted, thanks in part to the absence of the internet perhaps and relying on that old antiquated thing called a real book store was all i had to work with..

it would be really great if someone decided to actually translate barbaults work into english.. very little of it is available and is of great interest to anyone into mundane astrology, which would include me.

Mark · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject:

lihin · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 423 Location: Mount Kailash

Good evening,

As a alternative to translations, why not learn French, especially in a bilingual country? Something is always lost in translation, although the lost is less amongst the Romanic languages including to and from Latin. French is a clear, elegant language with 97 % Latin roots in its vocabulary.

André Baubault's book on Astrologie Mondiale is in my library. Nearly every author of mundane astrology seems to have his own 'school'. Baubault has indeed the great merit of actually having made predictions (although it is not demonstrated that their positives outcomes exceeded hazard) in contrast to many who merely apply hindsight to events that match their theories.

Currently, Jean-Baptiste Morin de Villfranche's monumental Astrologia Gallica, written in Latin, is out of print in French but available in English translations except for the first six books.

Best regards,

lihin
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Mark · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject:

Hello Lihin,

For those of us not quite up to your invitation of learning French just now here are some articles of Barbault that have been translated into English:

http://cura.free.fr/quinq/02barbo.html

http://www.icaquarius.nl/mundane%20astrology.htm

http://www.andrebarbault.com/conjonction_urnep_mond_ang.htm

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james_m · Joined: 05 Dec 2011 Posts: 934 Location: vancouver island

hi lihin,

learning another language is not something i am interested in at this time... i am learning astrology and music in an ongoing way - 2 languages as i see it, and frankly when i read a book in english it still has to be translated, as a lot of this stuff needs to be put in one's own context for it to make any sense.. going another step to learn a different language is not something i am interested in.. while i might not understand what morin had in mind due the translation of baldwin for example, i get enough of an idea to play with the ideas on my own which is really the most fun and what i want to do..

as for being in a bi-lingual country, these are labels to describe countries and people sometimes, and i am not one of them in the traditional way this term is used.. i am if you include astrology and music which are other forms of language.. i could be living anywhere planet earth for all that matters.. my identity is not wrapped up in my nationality in any way whatsoever.. for some, maybe it is!

margherita · Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 1259 Location: Rome, Italy

Honestly, I always found Barbault very boring,

His way of judging natal charts is the one of the old manuals of the beginning of 19th century.

What his followers tend to follow in Italy where many of his books have been translated, is his approach to mundane.

Anyway to me it was always obscure because Saturn and Neptune should be communism and Jupiter-Uranus opposite Saturn and Jupiter-Neptune the world crisis....

It's a very old way to do astrology,

margherita
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Mark · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:50 am Post subject:

Margherita wrote:

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Mark · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject:

Sorry Margherita,

That was my feeble attempt at humour Laughing

Mark
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james_m · Joined: 05 Dec 2011 Posts: 934 Location: vancouver island

without having access to his writing, or having very little, it is very hard to determine the value in his writing.. i have read a few articles on the net that i thought were very good, but perhaps my view is rather limited.. associating neptune/saturn with communism is an idea that made sense to me and one i associate with him.. his overview on the description of the saturn/neptune cycle in combo with uranus and the break up of the soviet empire struck me as very insightful, regardless of whatever else he has written that might have been off.. i admire anyone who has the nerve to use astrology in a predictive manner as i see so little of it.

lihin · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 423 Location: Mount Kailash

Good evening,

Here is a rough English translation from the original French, page 153 (of 335), of the first sentence of Monsieur André Baubault's text on combustion, part of a section entitled Les Occultations, from L'Astrologie Mondiale - La prévision historique par la connaissance des rythmes du cosmos, published at Librarie Anthème Fayard, Paris, in 1979. Baubault included four paragraphs on combustion.