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Martin Gansten
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Also could you please give the reference where Partridge mentions progressions or minor returns? I assume its somewhere in his Ptolemy/Placidus inspired Opus Reformatum?

I had a quick look, and they are mentioned on pp. 45-46, though in no great detail. I don't know if Partridge dealt with them elsewhere. There had been other Placidean authors in England, of course, including Bishop and Kirby; but I can't recall Worsdale mentioning them. Partridge seems to have been more or less the only other astrologer Worsdale had any time for.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ile wrote:
Hi SAN,

Can you please give the reference of the thing that Sun and Moon conjunct in Solar Return brings death to one of the parents?
I have it too this year so it would be very good to know the source of the saying and how much believable is.

I agree with the point Tom made. I also use the 3 indicators 'rule'.



Hi Ile,

I am sorry for late reaction. I forgot that I have posted this subject on forum that's why.
Answer to your question: I read about Sun & Moon conjunction in an very old Dutch book named : "Astrologishe chronologie" from the author Cornelise Gorter.

I know this information would not help you much because the book is not to find translated to English unfortunately.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Metonic Cycle Reply with quote

Hi there - this is a rather old thread. However, you might want to consider looking at the NM 19 years prior to the one in your solar return. Essentially, there should be a NM very close to the solar return that occurred 19 years ago (i.e. 19 years before the one that currently interests you).

This is the Metonic cycle, and after 19 years, the Sun and the Moon return to the same degrees of the zodiac on the same day of the year. If you have a NM on or about the solar return, it is likely to be a significant lunation in the Metonic cycle. Similar themes may occur at both lunations.

Note that this is not the same as the nodal return cycle, of about 18.6 years. The metonic cycle links lunations, which may or may not be eclipses, rather than linking eclipses, which is the Saros cycle.

I don't know if using the Metonic cycle in this way is an ancient technique, but certainly the Metonic cycle has been known about since classical times.

All the best. Ed
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last day of 2012 Rita Levi Montalcini, the Italian Nobel-prize winner died at the age of 103. (pictures from Phasis)

She had in her solar return Sun/Moon conjunction (hers is a night chart)



and a mundane opposition between Mars/Sun



Obviously I don't think someone can die with a moon/sun conjunction, but we know that the Sun can be an anareta

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When the moon is the prorogator, the place of the sun also destroys.


In Montalcini's chart the Moon is in the 6th house, but not so far from the Descendant, and the chart is nocturnal.

Montalcini data http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Levi-Montalcini,_Rita

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