Fascinated with Astrology

golmagi · Joined: 07 Mar 2012 Posts: 15

Hi , name is Rich and I'm a student from Brighton. I've always been really interested in how exactly astrology works. I found myself on your website looking for answers. It's really hard to find unbiased material on the subject in the web. Doing research online can also prove to be difficult. Astrology isn't exactly accepted among university students. That's why I came here Smile

I will lurk a bit and try to form a good opinion on astrology by myself Smile

jill elinore · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

Hi Rich, prepare to be confused Smile

Am just down the road from you, by the way, in Worthing.

Jill

jill elinore · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject:

You may notice soon enough that no two astrologers really think exactly alike: we like to indulge ourselves with how we pick and choose our particular brand of astrology, taking a little here and a little from there. My reasoning is to follow that which appeals and sounds familiar or even sometimes sensible and or logical ... to instinctively graduate to that in a totally subjective way and ultimately become a unique hybrid Smile

Raymond Scott · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 20

Exactly.

There is a lot of diversity in Astrology.
Unfortunately there is a lot of discord.

Steven Forrest even mentioned the Tower of Babel issue in Astrology.
Like him, I believe that there is on One True Astrology.

from 45 minutes into the video, he talks about that issue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWN8kk1uVhM

I am very skeptical of zodiac signs and house systems.
A lot of astrologers disagree on which zodiac to use. Tropical zodiac astrologers will argue their case for why the tropical zodiac is valid and sidereal zodiac isn't. Sidereal zodiac astrologers will argue their case for why the sidereal zodiac is valid and and tropical zodiac isn't. It's the same thing with the house systems. It's the same thing with what aspects to use. It's the same thing with what objects to use in Astrology. Some astrologers will talk badly about other astrologers using minor planets like they are ignorant people. Some of those minor planet using astrologers actually contributed to the naming of some solar system objects like Nessus. They are actually an example of a bridge between Astrological community and Astronomical community. The astronomer Percy Seymour is example of a bridge between Astrological community and Astronomical community.

I focus only on Planetary Geometry, and so the way that I do Astrology is.
It is based on Cosmobiology,Uranian Astrology,and Magi Astrology which are all highly geometrical astrological systems.

to each, his/her own - That's my approach to Astrology.

jill elinore · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:12 am Post subject:

I also think there is one true astrology and that a lot that is written and proposed is our feeble-minded attempts at getting there Smile

Working purely with geometry removes so much of the conjecture and Uranian astrology is something Id like to look into more.

Thank you for the link, I shall be sure to watch it.

Raymond Scott · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 20

Raymond Scott · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 20

jill elinore · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject:

Thanks for clarifying that, no problem.

I thought I had read you wrong but I stand by what I said which is that for me, there is some kind of perfect astrology that may encompass many of the thoughts of the varying astrologers/types of astrology to date. I just dont think we have found it yet but if/when we do, lets hope everyone agrees on it Smile

Paul · Moderator Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 819

Deb · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject:

jill elinore · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject:

I just see it as though we are trying to explain the unknown based on myth; maybe those myths have an element of truth in them or none or a lot but I cant manage to engage myself in theories, however poetic, based on assumption based on assumption based on an, um, assumption. Whilst frustrating for me, I have to move myself from the traditional and modern explanations; its akin to religion to me, explaining the meaning of life via ignorance or guesswork or divine inspiration.

Fundamentally, do we even have a soul? That needs to be established before philosophers decide what the soul is or what it should do! Traditional astrology is like a religion in the way it instructs and modern astrology is like a new-age religion. I cant deal with either.

Traditional astrology for me has so many ifs and ands and there is always something contrary to say to make rules fit (or unfit). Too much mitigation is not how I see the creator would have created the universe. I see traditional astrology as devising ways to cover its own bottom (excuse my French), to cover every eventuality, mainly to keep the king or eminent one happy Smile

I also think theres a bit of a conspiracy going on whereby making it all so ridiculously contradicting to cover up the real wisdom.

Im a great fan of John Frawley for doing away with a lot of the fluff though.

golmagi · Joined: 07 Mar 2012 Posts: 15

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jill elinore · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject:

Paul, a lot of astrologers were executed. Unfortunately, I dont have the stats. But I have watched I Claudius!

When I refer to religion, I mean the worldview that the themes of both astrology of today and antiquity are based on. Too many assumptions about our journey, what we are here for, what we are meant to achieve, too many arbitrary esoteric notions. Too many rules for life basically. Astrologers also have this horrible way of thinking that they have the key to the truth and I dont like it! This is separate to the way I feel about all the ifs and buts and mitigating circumstances. I see the often non-sensical rules to completely distract and it all looks too man-made for my liking.