Jupiter in detriment

[varuna2]

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[pankajdubey]

Jupiter in Gemini is not considered a detriment.
Only exaltation and fall is considered in Jyotisha. If you are working out the Western sidereal version then the Karaka's are not considered.

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[Konrad]

I've read this previously. Why isn't detriment considered a debility?

[varuna2]

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[varuna2]

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[pankajdubey]

[Konrad]

Varuna, thanks for the information. There is a friends/enemies list in the Western tradition but it is rather static and I don't recall actually seeing it used. I certainly never use it.

Pankajdubey, the 7th house aspect by benefics is not considered a bad thing in Persian/Arabic astrology either nor in the Greek (well Valens, at least). Ben Dykes calls both squares and the opposition the "stakes" of a sign and they are of the utmost importance when timing events in the year using the lords of the profections.

[pankajdubey]

Thanks Konrad and Varuna,

If you really get into the Jyotisha system then for malefics, the square and opposition will be bad because Mars is given three aspects- 4th( and thus equivalent to a square ), the 7th and the 8th ( mars thus is the only planet that aspects the 8th from its own sign.

Saturn has a 10th aspect and 7th aspect and thus covers square and opposition but also has a third house aspect!! Suggesting that at some point in its development Saturn's sextile was considered harmful too.

None of the benefics have a 4th or 10th aspect and only Jupiter has 5th and 9th aspects.