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St Leger Horse Race 10 September

 
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: St Leger Horse Race 10 September Reply with quote

The last of this year's English Classic races is the St Leger to be run at Doncaster (53N31, 1W06) on Saturday 10 September 2011 at 15:05 BST.

Although it's two weeks off, and I have not seen all the colours yet, I thought it might be time to start considering the chart. Although it needs more thought, an initial look at the chart shows the Moon applying to a conjunction with Neptune. This might suggest Sea Moon. Unfortunately, Sea Moon is the favourite at rather poor odds, so I will continue thinking about the chart to find a nice outsider at good odds that might be placed.

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ASC=16Sag06
I use John Addey's method, and here, cusp of 5 house will first aspect Pl, so I go for Masked Marvel as winner (Pl is ruler of 12)!
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the Pluto link give you "Masked"? What about "Marvel", would that be Jupiter? All the Virgo makes me wonder whether "Census" should be counted-in?
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pipedreamer wrote:
Does the Pluto link give you "Masked"? What about "Marvel"


Both words are Pluto (marvel as monster) like on this link:
http://marvel.com/universe
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the St Leger is on Saturday I thought some final thoughts were in order. As I mentioned in the first post above, Sea Moon is the clear favourite but a poor odds, so I have been looking to find a runner at longer odds that I can make a case for Very Happy

Looking at the jockeys' colours I am struck by Seville. Royal blue with an orange disc. To me that sounds like Jupiter (which I think of as either purple or royal blue) and the Sun. The chart is ruled by Jupiter (Sag rising) and the ascendant is closely square the Sun. The race starts as the planetary hour changes from Saturn to Jupiter.

I'm going for Seville to be placed. I don't think it will win, but at 9/1 it looks good value for a place.

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The last of this year's English Classic races is the St Leger to be run at Doncaster (53N31, 1W06) on Saturday 10 September 2011 at 15:05 BST.

GB, you post wrong start time, start time is 15:10!(according to http://www.racingpost.com)
In that case first aspected planet is JU, and acording to colors and name I go for BLUE BUNTING.
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! The report I used when I first posted was wrong. The start time is, as you say, 15:10. In fact, the chart I used this evening was set for the correct time of 15:10, I had forgotten the initial error.

As you will see, in the correct chart the asc is square sun. I agree about the colour blue, and Blue Bunting was my second choice! The only question is, does the square to the sun make the orange disc the differentiating factor?

Summary: Sea Moon is the clear favourite with the bookies and has strong indications of Moon applying to the conjunction of Neptune, but favourites are boring Very Happy The alternatives seem to me to be (as you say) Blue Bunting, or on the blue/orange, Seville. Currently Blue Bunting is available at 7/2 and Seville at 9/1. The favourite, Sea Moon is at 2/1.

Let's say: First - Sea Moon, Second/Third - Blue Bunting/Seville. Order of second and third at your choice. Very Happy
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I also Go for Blue Bunting for the St Leger ridden by Frankie Dettori, who's relocated chart shows a Sun Sextile MC at 2.47PM.

But at 2.05pm Frankie also has a Venus Sextile Jupiter aspect, so for the 2.05pm race, Al Kahn should be placed at least (14-1 at Paddy Power)

I'm going for an each double with Al Khan 14-1 and Blue Bunting 7-2
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Goca

would have liked to participate but have been working overtime
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My prediction was for 15:5 time, but race start at 15:13 and using John Addey's method, first aspected planet is ASa at 13Pi46, so color fits again...
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goca wrote:
My prediction was for 15:5 time, but race start at 15:13 and using John Addey's method, first aspected planet is ASa at 13Pi46, so color fits again...


Well done, Goca.


What house system do you use? It would be a good idea to have shown the chart on the OP for the race then everyone can check both the timings and chart systems. Confused
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question...because, now, I see I made a mistake in my last post, I look at chart with Placidus houses and then first aspect is with ASa.
John Addey's method use Campanus system house. This is a chart for this race:



and 5 house cusp make first aspect with Ju which is ruler of ASC. In 1st house we see Pl/mask but it is strange that regarding colors Pl dominate over Ju Confused
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thanks, Goca, I kept trying different house systems and the Campanus houses were the only ones that worked! I used to read Addey so I should have looked it up, now I know I'll try using Campanus - for horse racing at least! Smile
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Goca, and thanks; not having any faith in my own choice I backed Masked Marvel albeit with a small stake, but a win is a win.
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine, glad to hear that!
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