Tr. Mars activating the 23/24 Gemini/Sag

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Hi I was asked to relocate this post from the mundane to the natal forum, so here it is...

Mars has been activating the June 15 total lunar eclipse. These days, yes! The Oslo tragedy happened on the foot of the transit and Amy Winehouse died, fulfulling my prediciton of the probability of a famous woman dying in the last week of July (only I thought it would happen in California)...

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Would be nice to hear form you how people with planets at 23-24 mutable (especially Gemini/Sag) are behaving these days, what's happening to them, how they react to the Mars trigger... Amy had Neptune and Moon at 24 Sag (not sure for the Moon though)... ?
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Hi,

I had the eclips spot on my Ascendant-Descendant : 24?Gemini-Sagittarius.
So Mars is on my ascendant right now.

So far nothing is happening. I'm home, on a three weeks summer holiday. I have no special holiday plans, just enjoy the peace and quiet at home

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Hi Ema,

Firstly I have bookmarked your blog. I'm not familiar with Astromaps but was very interested to find that Neptune/Sun Neptune/Moon passed right through Oslo. Am I reading that right?

If so I would be interested to hear how people interpret neptune in these circumstances. It is both conj MC in the event chart and also conj ASC in Norwegian Labour Party chart, conj Saturn in Norway chart and finally opp ASC in full moon chart of July 15.

How would you interpret neptune bearing in mind that neptune was exactly opp MC in the event chart...unconcious fear of the unknown (racism)? delusional thinking/martrydom? Interestingly a lot of survivors speak of the whole thing being dreamlike or as if they were watching a film and expecting the youngsters lying on the ground to be simply acting and then expecting them to get up and carry on as normal.

Obviously youth = Mercury conj MC. For me it has been that fact, that these children were on the threshold of life, that has been both so unbearably sad and harrowing. Its quite unbeleivable.


And finally, re. Amy Winehouse, what were the reasons behind a forecast of the demise of a female singer and why located in California rather than London?
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Hi Daz,

I'm not familiar with Astromaps but was very interested to find that Neptune/Sun Neptune/Moon passed right through Oslo. Am I reading that right?
Yes, that's right.
Interestingly a lot of survivors speak of the whole thing being dreamlike or as if they were watching a film and expecting the youngsters lying on the ground to be simply acting and then expecting them to get up and carry on as normal.
Very interesting! That's it, the strong Neptunian influence.
Obviously youth = Mercury conj MC. For me it has been that fact, that these children were on the threshold of life, that has been both so unbearably sad and harrowing. Its quite unbeleivable.
Indeed!!! That's Mars in Gemini, the sign of the youth, turning his aggression towards children. Very very sad :(
And finally, re. Amy Winehouse, what were the reasons behind a forecast of the demise of a female singer and why located in California rather than London?
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to comment on that :) I mentioned California because in the ACG map for the eclipse, the Sun was on the MC and the Moon on the IC for that region, making it "vulnerable". BUT the Moon/ascendant and Sun/Descendant lines ran straight over London, so this area was equally important! I didn't mention it because I simply overlooked that when writing the blog. I also made a little bit of a mistake time-wise, I should've prolong the sensitive period to a few days before the 25th, as Mars was conjunct the node on the 22/23 already.
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AC at Libra 23, Moon at Aries 22, 9th house cusp at Gemini 22.
I was extremely lazy these days, except that got a professional interview for some international company.

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Amy Winehouse


On death Mars/SN 23 Gemini transits sq Natal Sun 22 Virgo.

Amy's Sun - 22 VI -
A ROYAL COAT OF ARMS ENRICHED WITH PRECIOUS STONES.

KEYNOTE: The certification of aristocratic status, at whatever level "nobility" expresses itself in cultural eminence.

Once more a reference to ancestral achievements occurs among these symbols for the sign Virgo. It is seen here in its most exalted character, for "royalty" is spoken of. Traditionally the king is the spiritual symbol of unity of an integrated nation; as a coat of arms is visualized, we are dealing with a status that is not merely personally acquired but has its roots in a notable past. Every great Adept has come out of a line of human beings who have made their marks upon human evolution. Spiritual attainment is the result of a series of long, repeated efforts; it is the end of a "royal road," (raja yoga) in the broadest sense of the term, raja, meaning king.

This second stage symbol contrasts with that of the first in that it refers to heredity rather than to the training of youthful raw material. Gautama the Buddha was known occultly as "He who comes after his predecessors." The coat of arms represents the collective status, the Spiritual Office. Whoever wears it assumes the responsibility of an Office. As the French say, "Noblesse oblige." NOBILITY confers upon a man exacting responsibility. The question implied in the symbol is, Are you willing, able and ready to assume a "royal" office, at whatever level it may be?
The last question in Rudhyars interpretation "Are you willing, able and ready to assume a "royal" office, at whatever level it may be?" is of central importance here. She acheived massive worldwide acclaim in a remarkably short span of time, however numerous accounts suggest that she felt deeply uncomfortable with fame.

"Amy is a public person. She's not like your usual reclusive star. She likes ordinary people. She likes playing pool with the bin men in her local. ?If she could take the Tube everywhere she would. She feels deeply uncomfortable in the world of VIP celebrity."


Her last album 'Black to Black' was released on 2nd March 2008, due to various personal problems, mainly drink or drugs related, there were no other releases despite attempted persuasion for her to record from the record company.

Her lasting status in musics heavenly firmamament fulfills the symbols interpretation of 'having roots in a notable past". Her music was traditional rhythm & blues and the Coat of Arms the same as worn by many others in the past who died young (at 27 just prior to saturn return) figures of equal idolatry and adoration such as Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain etc. It maybe a questionable honour but the status given is a certification of worth and remembrance.

...as with her fellow artists, Amy Winehouse's work is likely to endure the testament of time.

Additionally, unfortunate star Denebola conj Sun. "To be independent and to do things in one?s own way" "Going against society" and "Honor & Preferment with public disgrace and final ruin (V.Robson).


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She became famous in the main part because of her singing voice (#Ve sx Plu) unusual in the fact that someone so small could produce such powerful vocals. It may be of interest to note that pluto sits on a fixed star Izar described as 'the belt of the shouter'. Add the voice to a unique and charismatic personality and you have a music star of enduring worth ("Rigel" is conjunct the ASC giving her lasting honor and renown).
If Rigel is conjunct with the Sun, Moon, MC or Ascendant, quick rise in life is promised on account of a strong, inherent will power, love of action, and a lucky hand in enterprise. A continuous battle to retain an acquired position has to be waged. This fight at the same time stimulates an increase in vigor. Even in spite of unhelpful aspects, success and reaching the set aim can be secured by this powerful concentration. If however the native is not cautious or has an attack of weakness, failure and disappointments, a fall from success will follow. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928,

All planets reside in the Western hemisphere of "other people". Nothing in the East is here to help give her a true sense of self knowledge and independence...a lack of balance leaves her ?too dependent on others, she see's herself through the eyes of others, with a self-critical eye (Sun/Mer VI). When added ?to a debilitated venus conj Mars we can see that any important relationships are likely to be strained and generally disappointing.



Sabians for #Ven#Mar conj in #Leo

#Ven 21#Leo "Intoxicated Chickens Dizzily Flap Their Wings Trying To Fly"
Unsteady first realization of spiritual being. Forced inspiration which the ego cannot sustain. False self-intoxication.

#Mar 24#Leo -"A Woman Is Sitting In A State Of Complete Neglect Of Bodily Appearance And Cleanliness"

Spiritual emphasis at the expense of outer refinement. Interior focalization of energies. Self-abnegation. Character.
___*When positive, the degree is an ease of outer accomplishment thanks to the inner intensification and increasing sensibility, and when negative, perverse satisfaction in a neglect of self.


So 21#Leo Getting high through intoxiating substances rather than inner spirituality and 25#Leo a neglect of self/& appearance are both highlighted.



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Would be nice to hear form you how people with planets at 23-24 mutable (especially Gemini/Sag) are behaving these days, what's happening to them, how they react to the Mars trigger... Amy had Neptune and Moon at 24 Sag (not sure for the Moon though)... ?

And Sun/Mer at 22 VI.

The June 15th and July 15th lunar eclipses both trine Amy's tight Su/Me natal conjunction the eclipse MO Cap lying in her 8th house. The ASC of July 15th eclipse closely conjs Amy's Mars (tr SN).

I'm intrigued by the sabian for that Eclipse ASC for London..."Worshippers Perform a Ritual to the Sun". As I say its conj Amys Mars/Venus in Leo..the ritual offerings of her fans have been powerfully featured on the media.




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