CA vol I: ch.19 - aspects
Part VI of Deborah Houlding's annotated edition of Lilly's Christian Astrology, covering pages 105-114 |
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Andrew Bevan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject: Explosion in Government Quarters, Oslo |
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Explosion Oslo Centre - Government Quarters
Time 15.26 CST. The building shook. We live almost 30km outside Oslo. I opened my office door and shouted, "Did you feel that?" It was like a big explosion. Now on the News - a big explosion in the Government quarters in Oslo City. Windows are blown out of the building. Dead and injured reported.
The prime minister is reported safe. More later.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180673.ece
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Andrew Bevan
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Chart of Norway
Note the Ascendant in the event chart against the ascendant of the national chart. Mars in the national chart rising. The degree was transited by Uranus in the North Sea Bravo Blow-Out, April 22. 1977.
Notice that Uranus in the event chart is semi-sextile [text corrected from 'square'] Venus, ruler of the 10th of the Government, in the national chart.
Mercury culminating in the south in both charts. Fixed square. Reports are that it was a car bomb and could be the largest act of terror on Norwegian earth in modern time.
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Stellarium
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Aries Ingress:
Sun rules 10th (Government) - it is partile conjunct Uranus (shocking developments, violence) in 5th, a degree after the IC (would be quadrant 4th house - the homeland). Moon's configuration is separating from Saturn/Libra/12th (secret enemies) and applying to Mercury/Aries/6th - Mercury rules MC and 8th. Accidental rulers of death and destruction are Mercury and Jupiter (8th and 8th from Fortune rulers respectively) and they are in Aries (violent sign), Moon applying to Mercury - although it appears the large explosion targeting the government district did not cause many fatalities, mostly injuries (6th). Mars/Pisces is in the same sign as the IC giving it some 4th house significations.
Cancer Ingress:
Angles the same, now Asc ruler Mars is in the 8th with Venus (12th and 7th ruler), Moon (The people/public sentiment) is in the 8th from fortune (Death), Sun (10th ruler) applies to Jupiter, 8th from Fortune ruler.
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pankajdubey
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Stellarium wrote: | Aries Ingress:
Cancer Ingress:
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Are you an astrologer or a medium !!
I will try to read your mind and then broadcast it 
I guess you are pointing out that Aries ingress, Cancer ingress for Oslo are all in Scorpio ascendant and Algol on th 7th cusp.
The event cahrt has scorpio risnig as well with Mars in 8th conj South Node.
Was the analysis of "fear of flying" horary a premonition horary ?
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daz madrigal
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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#Mar Ruler of Asc.
#Mar conj SN
#Mar in 8th house
#Mar midpoint #Sat/#Nep exactly.
When added to #Ura sq #Plu and with #Nep#Pis recently going retro and its not good. #Nep retrograde is weak and with the tight conj to the IC it points to religious reasons for the explosion and general dissatisfaction. #Jup on DC isnt good its in debility and on a sabian 'a sleigh without snow' meaning frustration and anger at lack of progress.
#Nep weak gives the sabian symbol interpretation by ME Jones as ..
1#Pis - LATE AFTERNOON: CROWDS FILL THE PUBLIC MARKETPLACE
The social nature of human responsibilities. A last-moment,joyous rallying to a task. Negatively described as " A Complete Insensibility to Any Over-all Welfare"
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Stellarium
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| pankajdubey wrote: | | Stellarium wrote: | Aries Ingress:
Cancer Ingress:
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Are you an astrologer or a medium !!
I will try to read your mind and then broadcast it
I guess you are pointing out that Aries ingress, Cancer ingress for Oslo are all in Scorpio ascendant and Algol on th 7th cusp.
The event cahrt has scorpio risnig as well with Mars in 8th conj South Node.
Was the analysis of "fear of flying" horary a premonition horary ?
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Hadn't spotted that. |
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Andrew Bevan
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Shooting at Labour Party Summer Camp
North West of Oslo. Several youths are to have been shot and killed!
Link to map: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180789.ece
This is a critical day in modern Norwegian history!
There is no overview on what is going on at the moment.
The Head-quarters on Norways leading newspapers, Aftenposten and VG, are being evacuated and relocated to new locations. Police are advising people to leave Oslo Centrum.
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granny_skot
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I was looking at the event chart and being a bit puzzled from a fixed star point of view, because when I look at the stars on point one sees things such as
Regulus MC(Cul, 0°02'), The heart of the Lion, success but avoid revenge. A natural leader
Murzim DC(Set, 0°26',alh),The Announcer,
Sadalmelek IC(LCul, 0°36',cp), The Lucky one of the King, making ones own luck. The power of networking.
Rasalhague AC(Rise, 0°56',cp) The healer, to proactively seek change, to make a difference. (Which I suppose could be twisted to fit)
So then I started looking at the planetary alignments with the fixed stars and immediately you get
Stars Rising:
Venus Bellatrix (Rise-Rise, 0°21')
The Rogue – Dealing with a Rogue
Neptune Fomalhaut (Cul-Rise, 0°12'),
Ideals and dreams come undone
Neptune Regulus (Set-Rise, 0°27')
The leader fails, The king is dead.
Pluto Alcyone (Cul-Rise, 0°28')
A fight against organized crime
Stars Culminating:
Mercury Ras Algethi (Set-Cul, 0°12',cp) A pressure point is released.
Venus Castor (Cul-Cul, 0°29') A noteworthy Speech is made (please note this does not say positive or negative, just that it is worth your attention)
Mars Bellatrix (Cul-Cul, 0°19') the battle of the underdog
Neptune Rasalhague (Rise-Cul, 0°01',cp), Collective wisdom or science, fails
Neptune Polaris (Set-Cul, 0°07'), A final solution presented, or last chance that fails.
Neptune Regulus (LCul-Cul, 0°21')The leader fails, the king is dead(repeat)
Pluto Murzim (LCul-Cul, 0°07',alh) The words of one person, or a seemingly small event, have very powerful consequences.
Setting Stars:
Moon Ras Algethi (Cul-Set, 0°29',cp)
The swing of the pendulum, the people are out of balance.
Venus Arcturus (Rise-Set, 0°08')A successful artist is profiled (odd insert I grant you. but I suppose more than one thing can be happening at one time)
Mars Alhena (Set-Set, 0°26'), A time of Political Activists
Mars Alkes (Set-Set, 0°27',alh)The Protection of an Idea
Jupiter Zubenelgenubi (Rise-Set, 0°27')Humanitarian Issues take focus
Saturn Betelgeuse (Cul-Set, 0°13') Leaders focusing on Proletarian (Worker) issues
Neptune Regulus (Rise-Set, 0°16') The leader fails, the king is dead (AGAIN)
Pluto Uranus (LCul-Set, 0°25') death and chaos
Mean Node Zuben Eshamali (Set-Set, 0°26') A focus on the Welfare system
Stars with the IC:
Moon Betelgeuse (Rise-LCul, 0°03')emotions run high concerning a popular leader
Mercury Rigel (Set-LCul, 0°10',alh)The media having a strong opinion and trying to influence current issues. (anyone know where Murdoch was at the time... okay macabre humor I admit)
Venus Procyon (LCul-LCul, 0°00',alh),
New fashion statement???
Venus Aldebaran (Set-LCul, 0°13')A time of community awareness and Environmental issues.
Mars Bellatrix (LCul-LCul, 0°04'),The battle of the underdog (often related to strikes and industrial turmoil) (repeat)
Mars El Nath (LCul-LCul, 0°16') An Aggressive or Violent Act
Uranus Pluto (Set-LCul, 0°25')Chaos and Death (repeat)
Neptune Alnilam (Rise-LCul, 0°20',alh), Groups disband
Neptune Regulus (Cul-LCul, 0°20') The leader fails, the king is dead (AGAIN)
Pluto Murzims (Cul-LCul, 0°06',alh) The words of one person, or a seemingly small event have powerful consequences.
(Note: I use astro.com for the chart into and Brady's translations for the information below, occasionally inserting my own opinion or translation of what she says in her book 'star and planet combinations') |
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Andrew Bevan
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Four people shot
Four people shot at the Labour Party Youth Summer Camp.
People were reported in the water swimming for their lives.
This arrangement is held on a small inlake island 30 minute drive from here. It is an arrangement that gathers over 700 people. http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180789.ece
I have the Solar sunrize chart of the Labour Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg here. Link
Transit Pluto is conjunct natal Saturn. Transit Mars is applying to square his natal Sun.
I am not yet convinced that this is a terrorist action, or whether it is an eccentric action targeted against the Norwegian Labour Party. Something to do with the event chart with Mars in Gemini (local) and Jupiter on the descendant...
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: a shock |
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The event has certainly shocked the world. When I woke up at 6:00 a.m here in Australia it was the only story on the TV news.
I have only met 1 Norwegian person. She lived through Nazi occupation in Norway.
What a tragedy. The death toll is sure to rise in both places. The rest of the world feels for Norway. |
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Andrew Bevan
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The police have arrested the 32 year old, Norwegian, right wing extremist, Anders Behring Breivik, born Feb 13. 1979, suspected for both attacks. He portended to be a policeman and asked to be transported to the Utoya island by the youths by boat, as a part of a security precaution, where he then attempted to attract the youths to him and started to shoot them cold handed one by one.
Breivik has Sun 24 Aquarius conjunct Mercury, Moon Virgo conjunct Saturn at 12 Virgo. Mars is in the degrees of the nodes at 19 Aquarius and square Uranus 21 Scorpio, violent signs.
He is supposively a Conservative Christian. Jupiter and Neptune angular in the event chart.
Over 80 people hve been reported shot and killed on Utoya at the Labour Party Youth Summer gathering. Oh, this is too terrible!!
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granny_skot
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The horror of what the man did at the camp is absolutely .... I have no words.
looking at his birth data aligned with the explosion chart, you see that the Transiting mars is Trine both the natal mars and the natal Pluto - Mars trine Pluto seems to be a perfection of killing/ability to kill in this instance. I think
Natal Venus Square both T Saturn and T Uranus, (sense of self righteousness?)
T Mercury in opposition to natal mercury and Sun (frustrated Communication? )
Natal Jupiter Trine T Uranus (Benefit from Chaos?)
Transiting Mars Opposing Neptune - passion that is against idealogy?
okay just some passing thoughts, on this insane act. |
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Anna
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Mars is getting close to the degree of the June 15 eclipse in Gemini. Two events. Just a thought.
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Andrew Bevan
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The attacker also owned a farm where he was growing vegetables. It is speculated that he built the car bomb from industrial manufactured fertilizer. That probably means it is chemically based. Jupiter in Taurus on the descendant of the event chart, Neptune in Pisces on the cusp of the 4th.
Norway is ruled by Scorpio. Mars in the degree of the Moon's South node may be a co-significator of national vulnerability.
From the drama at Utöya (Utöya means 'Out Island')
Hiding in the rocks
Swimming for their lives
Sundvollen
The fear, flight and slaughtering of the youths participating at a peaceful camp on an island in the middle of nowhere is unbeliveble. 91 people are now reported dead. Images from: VG.
The explosion in Oslo Centrum occurred only 100-200metres from where the Norwegian Astrological Association hold their bi-weekly meetings. The Utöya Island is just up at a place called Sundvollen, which is were the Norwegian used to hold their annual conferences. Many international speakers visiting Norway will be familiar with the locations. The Sundvollen hotel was used as base for survivors and their families.
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daz madrigal
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| granny_skot wrote: | | I was looking at the event chart and being a bit puzzled from a fixed star point of view |
Where are all the malevolent and violent fixed stars we would expect for such an event? Tom and other trad.astrologers must be scratching their heads at this time..even the dull light of the "dreaded" Alzirr has failed to shed light on proceedings. Take my advice and use sabian symbols instead.
Everything old is not necessarily best - look at bear-baiting, cockfighting etc.
Away from ancient obfuscation and onto the role of the outer planets..
Where is the Extreme Right in all this?
#Ura sq #Plu is the most important planetary cycle here, the last time Uranus and Pluto were in square aspect together was during the 1930's - and we all know what happened then - the rise of the Nazi Party.
So maybe we should have been quicker to predict something like this happening. With #Plu in the 2nd house of posessions..we are probably looking at a material factor in all this. Apparently the gunman's businesses had failed in the past and this seems to be one trigger for his frustration and anger.
Then we have #Jup on cusp of 7th (enemies). Jupiter is the planet of liberalism and multiculturism...when its exactly on top of the cusp it is particularly powerful..he saw liberalism as an enemy of the country and his more old fashioned traditional #Plu#Cap values. Jupiter ofcourse is trine the afflicted Pluto.
And yes Pluto is indeed a planet - what further proof could you possibly need!
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