CA vol I: ch.19 - aspects
Part VI of Deborah Houlding's annotated edition of Lilly's Christian Astrology, covering pages 105-114 |
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Sebastian
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: America´s CUP - 2011 |
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In South America - Argentina - is beeing played de America Football Cup (same as Eurocup)
On Saturday will begin the last 7 games
Argeninta vs Uruguay is the most important on Saturday. There is no a clear favorite but Argentina as is local and a little bit favorite.
Argentina: Black short + dark blue shirt
Uruguay: All White
Day/hour/place: Santa Fé - Argentina (31S38-060W42) - July 16 - 10:15 pm GMT.
ASC 05AQU58
I would say Argentina go with the ASC becuse is local. By colors I would say that Arg still goes with the ASC that is Aquarius (indigo, azure) and Uruguay with the DSC on Leo (bright colors=white)
Saturn is the ruler os the ASC and is in the 9th house on Libra trining the moon - separating -
On the other hand the Sun is on the 6 house in Cancer and peregrine.
The Moon is about 6 degrees below the ASC.
For essential dignities Saturn is +5 and the moon and sun -5. By accidental dignities SAT is +2 and the SUN - 2
I would say Argentina has better chances.
Any opinion?
thanks in advance
Thanks in advance |
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Sebastian
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| APOF is conj to the Moon (white - Uruguay). Sun is in Cancer, which is ruled by the Moon, so I am lost now. ¿? |
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Goca

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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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First of all I got ASC 6Aq58
Odds: Argentina win 1.61 draw 3.6 Uruguay win 6.0
I agree with your asigning ASC and DSC upon color method, ASC= Argentiba, DSC is Uruguay.
By accidental dignities, Argentina has a little advantage.
Moon's aspect are trine to AVe, L10 and trine Ma, L4. According to Frawley, it is the last Moon's aspect over 5 degree range which gives the indication of victory, and considering that Moon is in Aq sign of surprises, that means Uruguy will win! _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Goca

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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Uruguay defeated hosts Argentina 5-4 (1-1) on penalties on Saturday and advanced into the semifinals of the Copa America, and will face Peru next Thursday for a place in the final match!! _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Sebastian
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Congratulation Goca!!!!
It was en incrdible match. Uruguay made a gol at the very begining, then Argentina put 1-1- with an extraordinary gol. Uruguay played with 10 players for 50 minutes. After Argentinian gol, all indicated, that Argentina were going to beat Uruguay easily. But on the second half Uruguay with one less player mede a very good work. The whole stadium was against Uruguay. Then they went to extra time and then to penalties. Uruguay won with an extraordinary work of the goalkeeper. Just incredible and without doubt a big surprie for evrybodie. An incredible win for Uruguay.
Then today, Paraguay beats Brazil in another not easy to undestand result even Brazil playing much better all the match. And right now Venezuela won over Chile 2-1. This is hard to belive. Chile is far better than Venezuela.
On the first mathc another underdog won, and it was Peru against colombia.
One very srange coincidence. The undergdog won on the 4 matches. Uruguay, Paraguay, Peru and Venezuela. In all cases the underdog played with white shirt (white and red in the cases of Peru and Paraguay).-
Moon in Aquarius in all of them. I don´t remember nothig similar to this results in an America Cup!!!
On Tuesday will play Peru against Uruguay in La Palta - Buenos Aires at 21:45 (00:45 GMT Wed) and on Wednesday at same time, Venezuela against Paraguay. I do not have the kit colors yet, but Uruguay and Paraguay are the favorite teams for sure. |
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Goca

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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I too watch that match Argentina vs Uruguay in our time zone it was at 0:15 am, I usually go to bed at 22h, but I decide to see if they wear kits as we though, but when I saw that goal at begining and how match is interesting I decide to watch all match and I did not want to sleep at all!
Yes, Muslera was in inspired form making many important saves throughout the match and ofcourse that Tevez's penalty! Very, very interesting match!! _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Goca

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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Peru vs Uruguay
ASC=13Pi56
If Peru wear red kit, then they are ASC, they will lose. If they wear white kit , then they are DSC, they will win.
If Uruguay wear white kit they will win.
Ju is ruler of ASC and is connected with red or blue color. Me ruler of DSC is connected with white color.
Accidental dignities are not so much different, essential are same. When it comes to Moon's aspect we do not have any importnat (with ruler 1,7,10 or 4, or with POF) Only aspect then I can see which can decide winner of this match is L1 opose POF, that is sure sign that DSC team will win. _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Sebastian
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Most likely Peru is going to wear white shorts and white and read shirt. Uruguay, black short and blue light shirt.
The other option is Uruguay all in white and Peru all in red. We will see. |
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Sebastian
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| Goca wrote: | | .... Only aspect then I can see which can decide winner of this match is L1 opose POF, that is sure sign that DSC team will win. |
Goca, POF is 18CA45. I understand L1 is Jupiter, ruler of Pi. Why is in opp to the POF? I do not see any planet in opp to the night POF. Unless you are taking the day POF. Please tell me. thanks, Sebastian |
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Goca

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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Sebastian wrote: | | Goca, POF is 18CA45. I understand L1 is Jupiter, ruler of Pi. Why is in opp to the POF? I do not see any planet in opp to the night POF. Unless you are taking the day POF. Please tell me. thanks, Sebastian |
If you calculate POF by day formula, as Frawley suggested, you will get POF=9SCo05. _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Goca

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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I think Peru will be winner in this match (and of Copa America 2011) because Peru was winner of Copa America 1939 and 1975, by Chinese astrology that were Rabbit years, and 2011 year is also Rabbit year!! And I think, according to chart for this match, that Peru will wear home sport kit - Me/white in Leo red stripe, so they will be DSC. But as you said, we will see. _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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arombe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hello.
In the first match, Uruguay vs Peru, Uruguay wear home sport kit, all light blue, and Peru wear away kit, all red.
For me, if Uruguay wear light blue, is Jupiter, and Peru white or red is Mercury.
Uruguay win, because Jupiter is in mutual recepcion with the Moon. |
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arombe
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| arombe wrote: | For me, if Uruguay wear light blue, is Jupiter, and Peru white or red is Mercury.
Uruguay win, because Jupiter is in mutual recepcion with the Moon. |
Final result: Uruguay 2 - 0 Peru
Uruguay light blue and black. (Jupiter)
Peru white. (Mercury) |
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arombe
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Paraguay (red, white, blue) vs Venezuela (maroon)
20.7.11
Mendoza, ARG, 21:45 +3
ASC 5º19' Pisces
Jupiter is Paraguay, and Mercury is Venezuela.
We have no aspects for the moon, so, is a draw and Paraguay win in penaltis/extra time. (Jupiter a little bit stronger) |
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Goca

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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Goca wrote: | Peru vs Uruguay
ASC=13Pi56
If Peru wear red kit, then they are ASC, they will lose. If they wear white kit , then they are DSC, they will win.
If Uruguay wear white kit they will win.
Ju is ruler of ASC and is connected with red or blue color. Me ruler of DSC is connected with white color.
Accidental dignities are not so much different, essential are same. When it comes to Moon's aspect we do not have any importnat (with ruler 1,7,10 or 4, or with POF) Only aspect then I can see which can decide winner of this match is L1 opose POF, that is sure sign that DSC team will win. |
First congratulations to Arombe!
Regarding my prediction I really do not see where I made mistake. Even if we use Frawley's method fav on ASC, it would be Uruguay on ASC. And upon Frawley's rule " L1 opose POF or APOF favours underdog" (Sports astrology, page 88 ), here Peru, Peru had to win. If there was not that aspect we could say that favorite would win because "nothing" happens in this chart. So, now I do not know what to think about that rule. We have again that aspect(L1 opose POF) in tonight match Paraguay vs Venezuela, so we will test it again! But it is not so close  _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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