16 by HoraryQueen Hi, I agree this has always been ambiguous and that the ancients prior to Lilly were not so clear as he was. It seems 10th was assigned as 7th from 4th = father's wife, which is very very odd since she gave birth to you and kept you alive whilst his significance in your arrival was very short lived in comparison! In natal charts I just say the 4th = parents, probably the father and if there is any reason to assign 4th to mother then I will go with that quite happily. It's only when we do horary we have to get so precise and about these niggling questions! Susan, Edinburgh. www.horaryqueen.co.uk Quote Sun May 08, 2005 10:41 am