Uranus "exalted" in Scorpio

[LynnHayes]

Hi all,

I have just been criticized by someone on my blog for not "knowing" that Uranus is exalted in Scorpio. The Google reveals that there are lots of astrologers calling Uranus exalted in Scorpio. I am not a traditional astrologer, but I'm pretty sure that Ptolemy's table of dignities did not include Uranus.

Your thoughts?

Lynn Hayes

[Mark]

[waybread]

I think Uranus works fine as the modern ruler of Aquarius, while retaining Saturn as the traditional ruler.

But if you work with Uranus at all, you may be into the "modern" camp, which doesn't much bother with exaltations and falls, let alone joys, terms, faces, and whatnot.

In modern astrology, generally either astrologers either don't work with the question of which planet is stronger or weaker (unless one is dignified), or else they use a quick-and-dirty rule of thumb that the further away a planet is from the sun, the more powerful it will be in a planetary pair. This is one reason why many modern astrologers find Pluto so compelling.

Theoretically, at least, there is some rational reason for affiliating a given planet with a given sign. To me, Scorpio and Uranus are not a good mix. Scorpio seems preoccupied with control and domination issues, whereas Uranus is supposedly disruptive if negative, and liberating if constructive.

[Deb]

Hi Lynn

This came as news to me. So is it supposed to be in its fall in Taurus?

Deb

[LynnHayes]

Well, I am a modern astrologer, but I do understand the dignities and had never heard this so I was really surprised to find so many astrology articles online claiming that Uranus is exalted in Scorpio.

Just for fun I looked up "Pluto exalted" and discovered that Pluto is exalted not only in Leo, but also in Pisces and Virgo.

I think this topic deserves a post on its own and would be glad to quote y'all to set the record straight.

thanks so much for your input!
Lynn

[handn]

Hello fellow Know-It-Alls!

In Cordelia Mansall's textbook 'The Astrology Workbook' (first published in 1985) she describes a scheme where Uranus is exalted in Taurus.

So Uranus is exalted in Taurus and fallen in Taurus.

Typical Uranian contradiction, so it must be true

I didn't need to tell anyone this though, because all of us already knew it, didn't we

Yours knowingly,

H.

[handn]

with ref to what Mark wrote...

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ur_aq.html

[LynnHayes]

Thanks for the link to that article, I had actually tried to find something like this on the site before posting on the forum.

I'm surprised this Raphael would assign "joys" to Uranus in Libra and Scorpio, since Uranus by its very nature gives challenge to human connections and emotions.

I'm not really comfortable with the whole idea of assigning dignities to the outer planets, which I see as transformational forces rather than elements of the personality.

[Deb]

I think I just forget what's not worth knowing. I remember nearly all of the historical info from that article, but the idea of giving Uranus a sign of exaltation seems pointless. Apart from it having no consistency of logic that ties it into the traditional rulership scheme, what practical use can it have?

But speaking as a modern astrologer, I think we can make good use of the outer planets. They only make the astrology 'mushy' when we assume they are of the same influence and importance as the seven traditional planets, and so try to make them fit into schemes they don't belong in (like this). It's even wrong to think that the 7 traditional planets are on the same footing as each other, when clearly the luminaries are the tops, etc.

This could start a big rant ... luckily I don't have time today

[handn]

Earlier I had a look in Margaret Hone's 'Modern Text-book of Astrology' since it held a position of influence and claimed to be modern, and its reprints spanned several decades.

It lists the exaltations of Sun to Saturn, then says...

[LynnHayes]

I need to hang out here more often.

[Mike N]

[Mark]

Hang on there! Maybe Uranus is exalted in Aquarius?

The early 20th century Scottish astrologer Maurice Weymss came up with an interesting counter theory attributing dignities to the outer planets. He set his ideas out in a series of booklets entitled Wheel of Life over several decades. A summary of Weymss proposed dignity system for the outer planets is found below:

[yuzuru]

[cor scorpii]

Of course Uranus is exalted in Scorpio - it's just that so many of us are stupid and careless enough to be totally unaware of this brilliant and groundbreaking concept!

I read about this a few years ago, while living in Germany(can't remember the title of this insignificant astrological book/books anyway...)

The ............. of certain "modern astrologers' " ideas will never cease to amaze and stupefy me

Goran