Venus Mars and Saturn

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Just like to remember forum members that, turning off the computer and going outside, we will able to see (depending of course of sky conditions) an interesting triple conjunction between mars, saturn and venus

Bernadette Brady has wrote about it in:
http://www.zyntara.com/VisualAstrologyN ... ly2010.htm

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I was just looking at this in a horary - so interesting because Jupiter is currently beseiged, retrograding between the opposition of Mars to Saturn, and then Venus enters the ring ...

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Sorry, did someone say... turn off computer? .... go outside?

I didn't realise this forum was a home for fomenting such subversive ideas!

We're not traditional astrologers, we're not modern astrologers, we're computer astrologers and we are on the web! Go outside?!??

I've no idea what you're talking about Yuzuru but I think you're proposing something dangerously anti-astrological.

:-T

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Yuzuru wrote:
Just like to remember forum members that, turning off the computer and going outside, we will able to see (depending of course of sky conditions) an interesting triple conjunction between mars, saturn and venus
I wish it was that simple. Its an inspiring idea but sadly somewhat unrealistic for many of us based in urban locations blighted by light pollution. :(

I fully support the idea of more naked eye astrology. However, for most city dwellers that is impossible until we can reclaim the beauty and magic of the night sky. I think its time we found common cause with the astronomers and supported dark sky campaigns in our local communities.

http://www.britastro.org/dark-skies/index.html

On our disappearing stars:

http://www.britastro.org/dark-skies/stars.html?7O

The UK CFDS have produced a booklet on the subject costing just ?3.00. It makes the case for dark skies (ie more directed street lighting) not just from an astronomical perspective but also considers strong financial, environmental and health arguments concerning poorly filtered street lighting. The booklet also challenges the myth that current street lighting is more effective in discouraging crime.

http://www.britastro.org/dark-skies/handbook.html

I like their notion that city dwellers are 'victims' of light pollution! :D

Since it seems light pollution in cities will be here for the forseeable future an interesting idea is setting aside 'dark sky parks'. Scotland took the initiative in establishing the first of these in in 2009:

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/darkskygalloway

Does anyone know if any astrological associations are supporting dark skies campaigns in their areas?

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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I fully agree with those campaigns Mark, but surely you can see the planets with your naked eye if you find the darker places within Edinburgh? No? Quite sad if it's no longer possible.

I live in an urban area, though not a city, and it's easy to see the planets despite the light pollution. I can't see the milky way, but I can always see the planets.

I'm quite shocked if Edinburgh and cities like it are that badly light-polluted.... say it ain't so! :(

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I should have said other countries established dark sky parks before the UK.

There are two parks in the United States: Natural Bridges National Monument in Utah, the Cherry Springs State Park in Pennsylvania, USA, with a Dark Sky Observatory park at www.geaugaparkdistrict.org/.

Hungary also has a Dark Sky Park. For more info see www.darksky.org.

Looks like its time to stop complaining about the status quo and start writing letters to your Congressman, MP, MEP etc. :'

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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I'm quite shocked if Edinburgh and cities like it are that badly light-polluted.... say it ain't so!
Well there are some less built up, spots in the city itself of course where observation is much easier. Speaking of my own locality though Venus isn't hard I admit but spotting other planets can be trickier since a lot of the constellation shapes are simply blotted out by yellowish haze from street lighting.

Apart from that we have quite light night skies at my latitude this time of year anyway. Then there is the problem of frequent cloud cover. :(

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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Thanks for that rundown Mark, it's hard to get an idea of what different places are like just from websites, photos and those city live webcamera things so it's useful to hear something from your experience of Edinburgh.

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Thanks for that rundown Mark, it's hard to get an idea of what different places are like just from websites, photos and those city live webcamera things so it's useful to hear something from your experience of Edinburgh.
I hope I haven't painted this over dramatically. :shock: Its not like we are twinned with LA in Blade Runner! :) I think Edinburgh is fairly typical of larger UK cities. Having said that it is still a beautiful city and well worth a visit. :'

Plus if you get out of the central belt there are impressive night skies in the Highlands or borders (with a clear sky!).

Mark
Ok thats my bit for the Scottish Tourist Board today... :wink:
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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Thank you very much for this thread! We should monitor the allignment of Venus, Mars and Saturn in Libra with interest - but as a hobby astronomer for over 35 years I believe the definition of the term triple-conjunction is as follows:
Wikipedia: A triple conjunction is an astronomical event, where two planets or a planet and a star meet each other three times in a short period either in opposition or at the time of inferior conjunction, if an inferior planet is involved. The visible movement of the planet or the planets in the sky is therefore normally prograde at the first conjunction, retrograde at the second conjunction and again prograde at the third conjunction.
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