World Cup 2010 Part 2

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Hi all,

It's great to see so many people contributing to the World Cup discussions but since the original thread was getting rather long, I have started a new one.

When making match predictions, please include the following data:

1) Time of kick-off
2) Venue
3) Ascendant sign with degree and minutes

All predictions must include your astrological reasoning.

Please do not ask for members' opinions without contributing your own.

Thank you and best of luck with your predictions! :)
Ficina

Useful links:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

http://www.oddschecker.com/
Last edited by Ficina on Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Everything I've written above is contained in the Forum Guidelines ('Read this first' - top left) so it's really just a reminder.

I replied to your PM at 6.09 BST. Perhaps your inbox is full?

Argentina - Mexico

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Dear all,

I?m no specialist in this sports astrology branch, but I?ll give it a try with Mexico-Argentina ( :D ).

They will play next Saturday, June 27th in Johannesburg at 20.30 (local time).

ASC. 16? Aquarius
SATURN: 28? Virgo (8th house)
SUN: 6? Cancer (5ht house)
MOON: 20? Capricorn (12th house)

I give Argentina the Ascendant, for it is the favourite and Aquarius matches the light blue/white shirt or the dark blue shirt they wear.
Mexico is Leo (which also matches Mexico?s historical relationship with the Sun).

I believe Argentina will win, for the Moon will trine Saturn (and it is the only aspect it will perfect), even though we?re talking about an 8th house Saturn and a 12th House Capri Moon. There are interesting matches between the chart of the game and Argentina?s: the Moon of the game is conjunct Argentina?s natal moon and the Ascendant is 3 degrees away from Argentina?s 5th house. The match?s moon is also conjunct the Sudden Advancement Lot, which should also favor Argentina.
There is a relationship between the Moon in Capricorn, disposited by Saturn in Virgo, disposited by Mercury in Cancer, and back to the Moon again.
On the other hand, the Sun (Mexico) has no special dignities, although it rules the hour of the chart.

So, my question is: why the 8th and the 12th houses appear in this chart? Does something smell dirty for the upcoming match? Or maybe the connection between the 8th and the 12th is showing the game will not be won in the expected way? (maybe a penalty will make the difference)?

Best to you,

Melina
www.starryherald.com.ar

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Uruguay vs Korea
26 June 2010, 16h, Port Elizabeth
ASC=17Sa50
As Uruguay home sport kit is blue/black they are represent with ASC ruler Ju in Ar. DSC is Korea.
Acc dig
Ju=12
Me=3, not so much difference. We look at essential dignities:
Ju=+6
Me= -5,advantage for Ju again.
Me is combust and that is serious debility (or the orb is too wide?).
Ju ruler of 1st and Su ruler of 10th are in mutual reception by exaltation, big + for ASC team.
There is no Moon;s aspects within 5 degrees.I do not think that POF will be of great help for DSC team, because dispositor is combust. Also Me exalts Ju. The DSC team is overawed by ASC team. My prediction is that Uruguay will win.
Greetings,
Goca
http://www.astrosport07.webs.com
http://fensi88.livejournal.com/

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Ghana-Germany
23rd June 2010
Kick off: 20:30
Johannesburg
Asc: Aquarius 13:24

Germany Black-white kit matches well with the Asc. Also, Germany is favourite. Moon is in the 10th house though no where near the 10th cusp. Moon trine Jupiter. I think Germany will win the match.

Australia-Serbia
23rd June 2010
20:30
Nelspruit
Asc: Aquarius 15:44

Interesting match. Almost same chart. But here L10 Mars is in the 7th house. So Asc. Team will have more chances of winning in this game. Serbia home kit matches well with the Asc. But I doubt that they might wear the Away kit ( white). If they wear white Australia will become Asc which will give Australia advantage
Warm Regards,
Rohaan Joshii

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Welcome to the forum, Melina :) You say you're not a specialist but your analysis is very impressive!
Daz wrote:England 2 Slovenia 1
England take the ASC using both favourites & colour method. Moon trine JU (ASC ruler) with APOF conj MC should be enough to give England victory.
Daz, you have not included the data, as requested in my first post above. I'll do it for you this time but please remember to do it next time, as everyone else has done. Thanks.

Slovenia v England, 4pm Port Elizabeth, Asc 14?51' Sag

It's crunch time for England but they never seem to have any luck. Last Friday they suffered the besieged Moon and now they're saddled with the cursed 4pm slot. Daz, I wish I had your confidence. The Moon has to cross a sign boundary to trine Jupiter and antiscion POF is rather a long way off the MC.

Jupiter is hour-ruler so chart is radical which should favour England who are odds-on faves but it didn't save Spain from defeat this time last week. Mercury L7 (Slovenia) is sextile MC which looks good for them although sextiles aren't as effective as trines. Hopefully the mutual reception between L1 Jupiter and L10 Sun will help England although it did nothing for the favourites in yesterday's 4pm games. They both lost but then there was the applying square which is now separating (just!). POF square its dispositor Venus doesn't look too jolly either.

Using my other method Mars (red-England) and Moon (white-Slovenia) are both above the horizon. This is usually enough for the odds-on faves to win, with the game being closer than the odds suggest. Mars crosses the MC during the Mars hour, enabling England to score, and Sudden Advancement conjoins Mars during the game. Slovenia might score too as Conquest opposes Mars.

I'd say there's the possibility of a draw but England should just edge it. Very difficult to be impartial of course! I am preparing for disappointment in the hope of being pleasantly surprised :lol:

I'd be very interested to hear other views on this one.

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Ghana-Germany
23rd June 2010
Kick off: 20:30
Johannesburg
Asc: Aquarius 13:24

The chart is not very radical. It is the day and hour of Mercury with rising Acquarius. Mercury ruling the Airy triplicet by night and Saturn, the lord of ASC, in Virgo, could, I believe, save the chart. Both rulers Saturn and Sun are
in cadent houses. The essential dignities of both are more or less the same. Saturn, though in VIII, the house of loss, being above the horizon seems to be in a slightly better position. The ruler of MC - Mars on the cusp of VIII is not a good sign for ASC team. Venus, the lady of IV, on the cusp of DSC within the orb of 2,5 degrees seems to be helping for DSC team.

The Moon is in X, though far from the cusp but still favourably placed. Good for the favourite. Her next applying aspect is trine with Uranus, the modern ruler of Aquarius, trine with Jupiter and quincunx with the Sun.
Jupiter is in the strongest reception with the Sun, the ruler of DSC.
The Moon's previous aspect was sextile with Saturn, now she is applying to
Jupiter by trine who receives it in the sign of Saturn fall.
Besides, Part of spirit is sandwiched between Mars and Saturn in the sign of Jupiter detriment - Virgo. PoF is in the same degree as the South Node 12, not good for the favourite.

In summary, I believe it will be a tough game and I expect that Ghana may even advance. My prediction is draw.
Regards

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Slovakia ? Italy
24 June 2010
Kick off: 16:00
Johannesburg
Asc: Sagi 13:44

The Chart is almost same as England's match yesterday. Italy may wear white kit( Away Kit) in today's match. So Dec. should be Italy. Moon in the 12th house but approaching the Asc. cusp. L10 in the 7th house. I think it could be a tough game for Italy. Slovakia might upset Italy today. Kindly share your views.
Warm Regards,
Rohaan Joshii