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Vicki



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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise that this thread was started 2 years ago and the last post was nearly 6 months ago but I thought it might be helpful if I also posted my experiences with New Library. I am new to the forum and have only recently found this thread.

I purchased the New Library foundation course in 2010 with absolutely no idea of the situation with Robert Zoller. I was under the impression that it was Zoller's site. I had looked around for an affordable course in traditional astrology and this was the one which appealed to me most.

I first started studying modern astrology in 1979 but chronic, severe illness has not allowed me to make much more than a very cursory study of it over the years. In the early 1980s I had "dreams" of becoming a consultant astrology, I so loved astrology, but it was not to be.

I mention my background because I agree with Zagata that this foundation course is not really for beginners. New Library gave me a very long extension, beyond the usual 12 months , due to my illness, to complete the course. In the event I finished the course and sat the exam within two months. I did not have to pay any extra money to sit the exam; it was in with the original cost.
The examiner marked it in great and very helpful detail but it was apparent to me that annoyingly some of the exam material had not been covered in the Foundation course and I later found it to be in the Diploma course. Also I didn't find the email format of the exam very easy to cope with and because of it I managed to miss some questions.

I was aware that I was going to be untutored and that I couldn't expect much if any help from New Library. I once emailed them with a query and got a helpful reply back. However that changed when I went on to do the Diploma course. Again I wasn't expecting to get much help but on one occasion when I contacted them I was given a definite brush off and so I backed away and have never contacted them since.

Last year I suffered a major further setback in my illness so I knew it would be impossible for me ever to sit the Diploma exam. I am just content with a sense of pride that I have managed to pass the Certificate.

I continue to read and re read all the marvellous material in the Diploma course and I have supplemented that with further reading. I also purchased Janus 4:3 software which is amazing and saves my poor brain from mathematical calculations which are beyond me now.

As far as I can understand it New Library have a legal right to sell Robert Zoller's course ( whether they have a moral right is quite another matter). Robert Zoller seems now to be selling his Diploma course on his own site but for a figure that I would never have been able to pay even though all the work he has done over the years no doubt warrants it. I feel very fortunate to have been able to study Robert Zoller's course even though I purchased it in complete ignorance of the circumstances prevailing.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicki wrote:
As far as I can understand it New Library have a legal right to sell Robert Zoller's course ( whether they have a moral right is quite another matter).


Once the boundaries to nations are crossed it comes more to the realm of politics than legality. In this case it is hard to say whether what New Library is doing is legal or not (whose hegemony / laws are you going to uphold; the ones with the bigger guns?), but because I know Robert Zoller personally, I would never deal with New Library.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only reiterate that I was in complete ignorance of the situation with the New Library when I purchased the course.

I am pleased to hear that you know such a brilliant man as Robert Zoller personally.

Unable to sleep last night I re read his lesson on "The Archetype" and it has had a remarkably powerful impression on me. I have been thinking about it all day.
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicki wrote:
I am pleased to hear that you know such a brilliant man as Robert Zoller personally.


Robert Zoller was one of the translators for Project Hindsight which is how I met him. It was because of the work that Rob Hand, Bob Schmidt and Robert Zoller did in exposing the old techniques (and being frustrated by not having it in windows software) that led to my writing software based upon the ancient techniques we discovered. They went their separate ways by the mid-90's, but Robert Zoller came back for a short time to Cumberland and I was staying down the hall from him in Schmidt's rather large mansion a few years back until I moved my software business to Nevada.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that background information Zoidsoft.

I have been reading Robert Schmidt's website and yours with interest.

I am trying to obtain a copy of Robert Hand's booklet on "Whole Sign Houses". It seems only to be available as an E Book on his site but I am getting no reply to my emails. I cannot find it for sale anywhere. I am very interested to read it because I am moving to use mainly Whole Signs for delineation.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whole sign houses:

http://www.astrology-x-files.com/houses/schmidt-houses.html
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not aware of anything that Rob Hand did with whole sign houses. He did publish a booklet on Sect several years ago.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did Curtis. It was called "Whole Signs The Oldest House System" and it was published by ARHAT. Sad that it is no longer in print, but it is short (it's little more than a pamphlet) and if downloaded should be easy to print out without too much strain on the ink tank.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the link Curtis.
Tom I have been waiting several weeks for a reply to my request for the download on Robert Hand's website.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicki,
If you still can't find "Whole Sign Houses" by Rob Hand I may be able to help.
Check your pm box
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