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Divisors, chronocrators, almutens in a Renaissance geniture

 
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margherita



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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Divisors, chronocrators, almutens in a Renaissance geniture Reply with quote

Very recently a friend of mine, the Italian astrologer Grazia Bordoni, sent me the original calculations of an unknown Renaissance astrologer for Alfonso d'Este geniture.

Excerpts of the reading can be read in her site (the article was written by a former President of the Italian Astrological association)

http://www.armonics2zero.it/index.php/angolo-esperto/un-oroscopo-rinascimentale-la-genitura-di-alfonso-deste/

but it is clearly not focused on traditional astrology.

So I used the tables she sent me for an article of mine. I believe they are quite interesting because the Renaissance astrologers shows as he proceeded to calculation of the almutens of the geniture, divisor, hyleg and alchocoden.

Moreover instead of using the more famous firdaria he uses for allocating time periods, the Greek technique of time-Lord mentioned by Firmicus too.
If someone is interested the article with pictures from the original manuscript - it does not come from the Internet Smile and my research of text can be found in my blog:

http://heavenastrolabe.net/divisors-chronocrators-almutens-and-more-in-a-renaissance-geniture/

Hope you like it
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you very much margherita for all the interesting topics you bring to this forum; I had put aside decennia after a brief trial period but now I am back experimenting with them thanks to you Very Happy
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

favro wrote:
thank you very much margherita for all the interesting topics you bring to this forum; I had put aside decennia after a brief trial period but now I am back experimenting with them thanks to you Very Happy


Thanks to the kind words.
These chronocrators are very interesting for me too. It's funny how authors - like Giuntini does- talk about firdaria and chronocrators one after the other, without considering they should be alternative methods.

I liked the almutens tables too because this is an example how how a real astrologer calculates something, we have tons of theoretical books, but detailed examples are rarer.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:49 am    Post subject: Domain lost Reply with quote

Margherita-Do you know what happened to the site heavenastrolabe.net? Harold Flushing NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She moved her blog:

https://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com/

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Wolfgang :-)
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:37 am    Post subject: domain found Reply with quote

Thank You-I am glad I could recover the site.It has been very useful to me for many reasons-Harold
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: domain found Reply with quote

Since the site where "la genitura di Alfonso d'Este" was published is down and people asked me the original article, I put the original article written by Malagoli (and previously in Armonics) here
https://www.scribd.com/doc/261436075/Malagoli-La-Genitura-Di-Alfonso-d-Este
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:21 am    Post subject: Alfonso D'Este Reply with quote

Just a question about above subject-After downloading Scribd document I could not translate to english.Google translate keeps saying page is already in English.Will this page be back on line sometime? Harold
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Alfonso D'Este Reply with quote

gothic5 wrote:
Just a question about above subject-After downloading Scribd document I could not translate to english.Google translate keeps saying page is already in English.Will this page be back on line sometime? Harold


That was not my side, so I don't know

Anyway I'm updating a new version of the article- not scanned. I believe you can translate it with Google translate

https://www.scribd.com/doc/261617487/Malagoli-La-genitura-d-Alfonso-d-Este
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:39 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Thank You Very Happy
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