Tsunami in Samoa

[tania]

Yesterday morning a tsunami has devasted the american Samoa Island.
I casted the chart for Apia, the capital, but the epicenter was registered about 130 km away 33 km above the sea.

the data are Samora Island 13°50 w 171°50 s, 6.48 Nat time (19.28 Met). 29.9.2009 .The data are from my newspaper.

Here is the chart. Comments?

[Andrew Bevan]

Thank you, Tania! For drawin our attention to this event and also for providing the chart.

Here is a list of quakes in the area the last few days:
29.09.2009, 17.48 GMT, 15S33, 172W18 - mag 8.0 - depth 85 km
29.09.2009, 18.08 GMT, 15S28, 172W09 - mag 5.6 - depth 10 km
30.09.2009, 24.45 GMT, 15S50, 172W32 - mag 5.9 - depth 10 km

Although the first quake is the largest, the potential of damage in case of the second two quakes is larger because the epicentre occurs closer to the Earth's surface.

For the first quake I get Asc 12LI44 MC 9CN29. The 9-10 degree of cardinal signs have turned up as significant in other historical quakes. I started tracking this due to an interest in the fixed star Vindemiatrix at 9-10 Libra which has several interesting meanings but which also may indicate 'worlds or giants in collision'. It is the epicentre, point of tension, part of fatality, or energy release of any relationship. Olivia Barclay said that this star represented a 'Table that looses a Leg'. This is another of saying that a relationship and meeting of people may not be correctly balanced, because a relationship should have four legs. If the relationship is not properly balanced the meeting may have dire consequences.

The preceding syzygy on Sept 18. has the new moon in Virgo joined to the opposition between Saturn and Uranus. I think this indicates the probability of high magnitude earthquakes. However, there are dozens of earthquakes of this size every year - but it is interesting that they suddenly are causing damage and have to the the attention of the press.

I can't spot why Samora is highlighted at present. My focus is in another direction. But as I showed in my previous work on the Sumatra Tsunami of 2004, the quake was inidated by the solar eclipse almost a year in advance that was in a relationship to the station of Uranus 45 days before the quake on Dec. 26 2004.

Link: Tsunami quake Dec 26. 2004

Successful mundane prediction is a combination of recognizing areas of weakness and then correctly understand the build up of tension. Events do not always break the surface, but that does not mean that there has not been tension. Tension seeks the paths of least resistance.

Please feel welcome to post any further observations. This is what we are looking for!

PS. For you interest I am also posting a link to the astro*cartography of the lunar eclipse March 3. 2007 that highlighted your country and here you also find a link to the solar eclipse of April 8. 2005 that coincided the replacement of Popes: Link Here
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[tania]

Hi Andrew, thanks for your data which I will study as soon as possible. But one thought of You stroke me.

[Andrew Bevan]

[tania]

[Curtis SWN]

Forecasting catastrophes like earthquakes, hurricanes, etc has got to be an inexact science at best. What planet rules disaster? Pluto, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus? Don't they all?

How many times and in what time zones will those planets make paran squares, etc.

If you take the chart of 9-11 the only "trigger" you can see is Mercury exactly on the Ascendant, which is hardly a malefic element. In my mind you can only highlight periods of potential manifestation; and if you don't take the astrological correlations of shock, awe, and despair you won't get far.

Most predictions in astrology, especially mundane ones, never occur and they quietly go by the wayside. I think that trying to make such predictions has more to do with the desire of the astrologer to seek a reputation in the eyes of an ill-informed audience than anything else.

I've tried, I should know hahaha. I think if someone tried to become a disaster predictor and tried to hang his hat on it, it's not going to go well simply because any one man (or woman) does not have the sagacity, action of mercy, and cosmic breadth of vision that the Lord of the Universe. They call these things "acts of God" for a very good reason.

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[Andrew Bevan]

Sorry, it was Uranus ingress to Capricorn - you are quite right.
But the Moon was in Libra - and this was my starting point.

The Mountain Astrologer did publish some of my work in this field in an edition of the bulletin 'Urania' April/May 1990.

I have taken the liberty of correcting my msitake in the previous post. Thank you for picking up on it. I am rather racing through things at present.

[margherita]

Buonasera Tania di Perugia, noi non abitiamo cosi' lontano...

but we are lucky to be guests in Andrew forum, (and obviously Deborah too), I always follow his posts, even if myself I tend to be true to Ptolemy. But I never dismiss others' knowledge, this is my rule of life.

For me Samoa earthquake and Indonesia one are not linked, because last eclipse was not visible from Indonesia, while from Samoa it was visible.

And this is not a small difference, because according Ptolemy it is the quality of light which influences events.

I tried to write some notes about it in my blog, but considering you are Italian I would recommend together with Andrew works, Cieloeterra site.

They have a group where they study eclipses and earthquakes, so sometimes they publish something on the subject.
I always hope they decide to translate something in English,

margherita
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[Eddy]

Perhaps my last post in the eclipse thread could also be placed in this thread, I couldn't choose. Focusing on the Samoa and Indonesia quake I think it's plausible that they are related. At least from a geophysical point of view. As I believe in a 'physical' astrology I can also believe in the relatedness to the same astrological event. Just like a bell sounds for a while after been struck, the Earth's crust could 'sound' for a while after a first earthquake causing earthquakes at other cracks in the crust.

I just looked at the 26 January 2009 eclipse path and indeed Margherita, this also seems to be very significant for Indonesia. I'd believe the eclipses both add to the earthquakes instead of either the one or the other. Probably the recent Saturn-Uranus position also has something to do with it.

[Andrew Bevan]

I found an old copy of the old article on earthquakes as appeared in Urania (The Mountain Astrologer) in 1990, and scanned it and loaded it onto net it any wants to work through it. (Link).

However, I would also say that earthquakes tend to move in families with different sequences. There was a very exciting earthquake pattern in 1999 where earthquake seemed to reappear in different places but within accellerating intervals according to the Moon's phases. I found that one on net, too. (Link)

My target was Italy and the final date coincided with the most violent erruption of Etna for decades. However, and fortunately, this event did not have any cataclysmic consequences.
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[margherita]

[Eddy]

[margherita]

[Eddy]

I printed Marco Fumagalli's article and will look at it this weekend.

In the meantime have a look at this list of recent earthquakes, 3 earthquakes of more than 7.0 on one day. That area (West-Pacific) is very restless. Perhaps rather than viewing these and those of the last weeks as single events one could also look at it as part of a larger pattern. I think we should also keep an eye on the Mars transit over the eclipse point (15 October). http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

[Eddy]