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Andrew Bevan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: UEFA - Over 200 games fixed!! |
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Game fixing
Over 200 games may have been fixed says UEFA's Peter Limbacher. Police act in Great Britain, Germany, Austria and Switzerland.
The article in Aftenposten 20 Nov is in Norwegian, but the google-bar will translate it to any language. Maybe someone else can provide some other good sources.
Does anyone have examples of matches that were fixed?
It would be interesting to see THOSE charts. 
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Andrew Bevan
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Would afflictions to the Part of Spirit deprive the game of honour?
Hey, Goca, you put me on an idea! Check the chart of the France - Ireland game! 
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Here's the story from the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8370748.stm
Yes, it would be interesting to see the charts although I'm not sure if or how our predictions would be affected by match-fixing. The chart supposedly indicates the outcome of a match however it is achieved, so such things as refereeing errors or match-fixing shouldn't make any difference. It's the final result that counts. |
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Andrew Bevan
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The game between Yverdon - Thun in the Swiss 2nd division on 26 April 2009 at 15.00 CEST was supposively fixed according to the German newspaper Süddeutche Zeitung. The match ended 5-1. Players on the visiting team are to have received about £ 15.000,- each for a 4 goal loose.
Source: Aftenposten
Match details & best odds: Soccerway
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Fenerbahçe vs Budapest Honved
1,05 6,00 12,50
30 July 2009 21:45 (Local Time) Istanbul
First Half: 3-0 Match Result: 5-1
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| Quote: | | The game between Yverdon - Thun in the Swiss 2nd division on 26 April 2009 at 15.00 CEST was supposively fixed according to the German newspaper Süddeutche Zeitung. The match ended 5-1. Players on the visiting team are to have received about £ 15.000,- each for a 4 goal loose. |
I do not know regarding colors "who is who" in this match, but it catch my eye that ruler of 12 house for DSC team (secret activity) is on cusp of DSC 2nd house (money activity) and control (because it is on cusp) activity regarding success for both teams (both rulers of MC an IC are in 2nd house).
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Two previous students of the Norwegian University of Science & Technology, NTNU, Petter Fornaess and Ivar Arnesen developed the system that revealed the recent match-fixing in Europe. The originally developed the system to win more on the odds.
- We have systems that automatically monitors the 29,000 European matches a year, for around 300 customers. When the system detects matches where the odds change very suddenly, or the end result is very surprising, an alarm is triggered, "Fornaess said to Dagens Naeringsliv.
Source: Aftenposten
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Two previous students of the Norwegian University of Science & Technology, NTNU, Petter Fornaess and Ivar Arnesen developed the system that revealed the recent match-fixing in Europe. They originally developed the system to win more on the odds.
- We have systems that automatically monitors the 29,000 European matches a year, for around 300 customers. When the system detects matches where the odds change very suddenly, or the end result is very surprising, an alarm is triggered, "Fornaess said to Dagens Naeringsliv.
Source: Aftenposten
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Andrew Bevan
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Match-fixing is now an issue in Norway and been in the headlines a couple of days. 
I am wondering whether the 12 house and it's Lord should play a part in these matches. It is like an ambush or assasin. In the example chart from 2009 it is the guests and descendant that are accused of corruption. Jupiter, L7, is in the 12th from the 7th house and on the contrantiscia of the Sun, who is Lord of the radical 12th.
We might be able to gather a few more perspective on the intervention of a fair match.
The example was played on a Sunday in the Hour of the Sun, so the Lord of the Hour is also the Lord of the 12th.
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I forgot to mention that last Sunday's match in the Adeccoleague (1. div) between Ullensaker/Kisa IL and HamKam Fotball was postponed due to the suspision of match fixing. It was one of the players from Ull/Kisa that came under suspicion. Large amounts of money have be placed on specific results/scorelines shortly prior to games under suspect of result manipulation. Several football players have tipsed the Norwegian Football Association stating that they either asked whether they would participate in match fixing, or that that knew that such negotiations had occurred.
The game Ull/Kisa - HamKam was due to start at 18.00 CEST, July 8. Here is the chart:
The game is played on the Day of the Sun and in the hour of Venus. The MC is conjunct the degree of Venus' fall and might be a clue as to financial misdealings. I note that Algol is not far from the descendant. This degree was prominent in the chart from 2009 shown earlier in the thread. Mars is Lord of the 12th house and culminating in the sign of his detriment. He casts his antiscia to the cusp of the 4th house.
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Andrew, is this chart for a match that should have been played or is it for the real match, please? 
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It is the fixture that was postponed due to a suspected 'fixing'. 
It didn't start. The match is to be set up again on July 18.
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johannes susato
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| Andrew Bevan wrote: | | I am wondering whether the 12 house and it's Lord should play a part in these matches. It is like an ambush or assasin. In the example chart from 2009 it is the guests and descendant that are accused of corruption. Jupiter, L7, is in the 12th from the 7th house and on the contrantiscia of the Sun, who is Lord of the radical 12th. |
As to the match-fixing there are several levels or sections in my opinion, at least:
1. the opponents in open fight.
2. the cheating contra the opponents
3. the cheating contra the own team, because not the whole team is involved in fixing the match, but only some members of it.
4. the spectators
5. the puntors and the bookmakers.
In this context our interest is focussed on 2. and 3. mainly.
Team members of the AC cheating are the private enemies of the DC and thus should -if at all- be visible in the 12th from DC as the DC's private enemies.
Team members of the DC cheating should then -if at all- be visible in the 12th from the AC as the AC's private enemies.
This abstract delineation seems to be in contradiction to that of Andrew (partly) and that of Goca a little earlier in this thread, and possibly it was worth discussing the difference of both?
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