Norwegian General Election

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Norway hold their General Election to the Norwegian Parliament, 'Stortinget', on September 14. 2009. The Storting consists of 169 seats and forms the basis of an elected Government that may govern by majority or minority according to the division of seats and political alliances that make way for a government consisting of one predominant part or a coalition of several. Historically, the Labour Party, AP, has been the predominant party of Norwegian politics since the late 1920's. However, the support this leading socialist party received in the late 60's (46,5% in 1969) has gradually been on the decline up until the beginning of the 21st Century (27% in 2003). The vote closes at 21.00 CST. A chart is provided for Oslo for the time the election halls close.
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Mercury is retrograde. Saturn, L10, is combust the Sun and in exact opposition to Uranus. The Moon is joined to the degree of Mars' fall and is conjunct the Moon's South node. This provides the potential of a 'pitted' outfall. It is not going to be an easy election and not an easy situation for political parties to maneuver once the outfall is known.

One persons fall is another persons bread. One party that is likely to do well at this years election is the Progress Party (Frp) lead by Siv Jensen. The problem is that the Progress Party represents the extreme right wing of Norwegian politics and no other party wants to colaborate or go into political coalition with FrP.


The Chart of Norway - external link
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I'm just including this chart to add the comment that Norway often has been called 'the Quiet Corner of Europe.' I also recall a holiday advert that used to appear in the European: "Enjoy total isolation in Norway."

The political system of Norway is noted for its numerous small parties. For a nation consisting of slightly 5 million people there are 8 major political parties that could be worthy of mention, but this means that the Norwegian democratic model is quite complex. Over the last decade we have had several minority governments, some based on feeble constellations of 2-3 political parties. The result is that in fact it is not the Government that sits with the power, only the administration. The decisions are made by the Storting and are voted upon from case to case. The sitting government has to turn alternatively to the left or the right to get support to exercise its policies. The system may be quite time or resource consuming. If the Government is not supported then the way is short to a cabinett question. However, the lack of a better alternative might prove the sitting Government to get its way.



Party leaders

There are the Solar charts of 3 party leaders that I think are worth looking at prior to this election. Solar charts work fine and most particularly with prominent personalities. Presently it appears I am a little bit on my own and on my own island in applying the Age Point Technique, which in brief consists of moving the ascendant clockwise 6 degrees every year, or one sign every 5 years. This system also provides relevant information when directing the Sun clockwise according to the same technique. This point is called the Solar Age Point, abreviated to SAP.


Jens Stoltenberg, Labour Party, AP, 30,8% in 2005 - external link
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Jens Stoltenberg is the son of the previous Labour Party politician Thorvald Stoltenberg, who was the Minister of Defence from 1979-1981 and then Foreign Minister in the interval from 1987-1993. Jens Stoltenberg himself was Prime Minister for a short period from year 2000-2001 and has been sitting in position with his 2nd Goverment (a coalition with SV & SP) since October 17.2005.


Siv Jensen, Progress Party, Frp, 22,1% in 2005 - external link
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Jensen has been a permanent member of the Norwagian Storting since 1995. In 2005 she took over as leader for the Progress Party in 2005. Since this is her first General Election as leader of Frp it is interesting to see those potentials that have been lay latent within the chart and that comes to surface upon the first possible occasion. Jensen's chart is facinating by the fact that her SAP has at the time of September 2009 reached 8LI55. Libra is the sign of coalitions. The Moon's North nodes casts its antiscia to 3LI23, which is not due before closer August 2010, but the question is whether it all comes to surface with the first occasion of the election. Libra ruler Venus in Aries may result in unexpected bed-partners. The first point that the SAP hits after the election is the opposition to Chiron at 5AR50 - but this may be rather descriptive of the political turmoil in the wake of the election result. The success of Frp depends upon their ability to build bridges between worlds, but they are apt to get stuck between chairs as they are in a 'no-mans land' or rather far extreme, which makes them unedible as a political partner in the most contexts.


Erna Solberg, Conservatives, H, 14,1% in 2005 - external link
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Solberg's chart shows some stiking similarities with Jensen's. Jensen has the Sun in exact opposition to Mars. Solberg has her Sun in opposition in Pluto. Both women have their natal Venus' in the same area of Aries. And both of them have a combust Mercury that also is retrograde. That last condition makes me think that a coalition between the Conservatives and the Progress Party may be attempted but could be of a limited duration.

Comparing Solberg's chart with Prime Minster Jens Stoltenberg, AP, we note that both have their Sun's in Pisces - and they both have their natal Moon's in Gemini. Although it may be a political paraox trying to unite the leading socialist party with the conservatives in a political coalition, the idea may not be too far fetched - when matters are at gun point. This is after all the nature of Pisces, the ability to gather diversities and opposites under the one and same roof. For this reason I thing the Conservative Party may hold the Wild Card at this years election, and who actually comes to sit in government depends upon who they decide to colaberate with.
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Norwegian leading newspaper has a questionaire at www.aftenposten.no today regarding what sort of future government people are looking for:

1. AP, SV and SP (Coalition between Labour, Socialist Left, Farmers)
2. AP (Labour)
3. H + Frp (Conservatives and Progress Party)
4. H, Krf, V (Conservatives, Christian democrats and Liberals)
5. Farmers, Liberals and Christian Democrats
6. Conservatives
7. Progress Party

I'm sure there are other alternatives, but this does describe the Norwegian politcal landscape and state of their democracy at present. :???:
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Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet refers to recent polls that give 3 alternatives to a future government after September's General Election:

1) Conservatives (H), Progress Party (Frp) - 61 mandates
2) Christian Democrats (Krf), Conservatives (H), Liberals (V) - 43 mandates
3) Labour (AP), Socialists Left (SV), Farmers (SP) - 89 mandates

The Norwegian Storting has 169 seats. A majority government requires 85 mandates.
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Here is an update on the polls:
Last week the polls turned from a socialist to a non-socialist government. However, newspapers claim the existing socialist Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg, is the most popular candidate to continue as Prime Minister.

Hegnar Online: Socialists 81 mandates, Non-socialists - 88 mandates

With a non-socialist majority, this paves the way for a governement between the Conservatives (H) and the Progress Party (Frp). However, the leader of the Conservative Party, Erna Solberg, has chosen to change political partners and has been appearing as a potenial Prime Minister candidate in a coalition with the Liberals (V) and the Christian Democrates (KrF). One of the problems is though that on the non-socialist side the Progress Party (FrP) has greater support in Parliament than the other 3 parties together. Progress Party leader, Siv Jensen, is the Prime Minister candidate in any coalition involving that party.

If there is a non-socialist majority, then the sitting socialist government is likely to either reseign or be thrown, in which case the King asks the leader of the largest opposition party, being Siv Jensen in the Progress Party, if she can form a government. This will get both messy and exciting, and I invite anyone once again to look at the chart submitted for when voting halls close.
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Hi Andrew,
I invite anyone once again to look at the chart submitted for when voting halls close.
I have tended to use charts for when the polls open. I certainly thought the chart for the last Scottish Parliament election was more reflective of the outcome that way.
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I can't quite see how an election can be judged from the moment the election halls open. No results are official before the election halls close. A birth is not valid before it is completed. After all the votes are counted the political parties go into negotiation, som the new government is not in place before Nov 1. anyhow. But this question is an interesting one and deserves attention. I would be delighted if you could make sense of the chart:
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Well if the ascendent is the people, wouldn't watching the ascendent ruler of the opening of the day be useful in showing what the people want, expect to do? I like the closing of the polls chart because to me it says, "okay, We've made our dicision, What will come of it?" I think you get better results from closing poll chart, than opening poll chart.

but hey, I've been wrong before. :)

G

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Thanks, Granny. I notice that Vindemiatrix is rizing as the election commences. This may yet indicate a calmatic meeting, or a table that lacks a leg and that is toppled on its end. Coalitions do not work out on equal terms with this star rising. Five years ago on October 3. 2005 there was a annular eclipse at 10LI19 at the same time as the foundation for the existing government was formed. The leader of SP (Farmers), Aslaug Haga, left the coalition and departed from politics. Their current leader said that a coalition on the current terms would not be accepted again.

There has been a great shift in the polls the last week with the Conservatives departing from a supposed coaltiion with the Progress Party. Polls also suggest that the Conservatives have taken a lot of votes from the same source. However, Mercury is retrograde and pools may lies. Both the leader of the Conservative Party, Erna Solberg, and the leader of the Progress Party, Siv Jensen, are born under the Sun sign Gemini. I suggested that Erna Solberg was a wild card and capable of shifting stalls.
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Hello Andrew,
I can't quite see how an election can be judged from the moment the election halls open. No results are official before the election halls close. A birth is not valid before it is completed. After all the votes are counted the political parties go into negotiation, som the new government is not in place before Nov 1. anyhow. But this question is an interesting one and deserves attention. I would be delighted if you could make sense of the chart:
I should say I haven't tested this idea out in dozens of charts so I am not deeply passionate about defending a viewpoint on the opening of poll chart. However....

If you want the case set out it is that a chart for the opening of polls I will do so. I would suggest it can be presented as a contest chart. It contains within it all the potentiality of how that contest will be characterized and concluded. I dont do Sports astrology like you but am I right in thinking you do the chart for the start of play? I accept that may just be because you have no idea when the contest will end! Elections are different.

It occurs to me there may be more relevance for this kind of approach in a country with a first past the post political system such as the USA or the UK. The USA Preseidential/House of Representatives or UK Parliamentary elections (usually!) produce a clear decisive winner. Although the US Presidential election of 2000 was clearly an exception to this and almost unprecedented in American history for its indecisiive result. But for the vagaries of the Florida voting recording system (and the Governer, George Bush's brother) Al Gore should have been President. It would be very interesting to look at chart for both times opn that election. I accept the US Senate is another matter as its been voted in on a knife edge many times.

In the multi-part proportional representation systems of continental Europe its much harder to identify who is who! I note you mention post election negotiations which are typical for much of europe but hardly ever happen in the UK or USA for national elections.

Anyway, just to show I am not alone on this here is a link to an astrologer using this approach.

http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology ... chart.html

This proves absolutely nothing I accept. I accept the whole thing needs more chart comparisons between the two approaches.

Mark
Last edited by Mark on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:05 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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I suggest an opening of polls chart could be presented as a contest chart. It contains within it all the potentiality of how that contest will be characterized and concluded. I dont do Sports astrology like you but am I right in thinking you do the chart for the start of play?
That is an interesting arguement. I do cast charts for when the political parties start their campaigns, but while the voting halls are open and votes are cast everything is sealed. There are no polls and the parties are not allowed to run their campaigns - I believe.
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That is an interesting arguement. I do cast charts for when the political parties start their campaigns, but while the voting halls are open and votes are cast everything is sealed. There are no polls and the parties are not allowed to run their campaigns - I believe.
True but by the point of the election poll opening its no longer about what the political parties say anyway. Its time for the people to speak or more specifically vote. Another analogy one might use is of a jury in a court case. Arguably, the electorate are the jury on poll day. Dont people sometimes use a chart for the commencement of a trial sometimes? I am more used to this kind of thing in horary but I believe an event chart could work too. I had a friend in a succession of court cases who used the event charts for the start of each court case to judge the outcome. It seemed to produce accurate results.

Mark
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Mark wrote:I had a friend in a succession of court cases who used the event charts for the start of each court case to judge the outcome. It seemed to produce accurate results.
Yes, I do that to. The time the trial or court meeting commences - that is the time of the appointment or fixture. With an election the times for when the voting halls open and close are equally known. Upon the closing of the final voting hall the first results are announced. The counting of votes then continues into the night. Sometimes the result isn't clear until the next day and sometimes until after several days if a recount is required or some missing votes turn up.
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