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Morinus: excellent primary directions software!
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Martin Gansten
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Morinus: excellent primary directions software! Reply with quote

It is often said that the best things in life are free. When it comes to primary directions software, it may even be true.

I have spent the last few weeks installing, testing and reviewing the primary direction modules of various software (as the very last bit for my forthcoming book), and I feel so enthusiastic about this excellent piece of freeware:
http://pymorinus.extra.hu/
that I wanted to make it known in advance here on Skyscript, particularly as the author of it is a member. Rob: if I had a hat, I'd take it off to you!

Of all the applications I have seen, including the most expensive and advanced, Morinus promises to become my favourite for primary directions. The calculations are, so far as I have had time to test them, absolutely correct; the range of choice is impressive; and there are promises of even more features for the next version, some of them, to the best of my knowledge, unique (such as lunar parallax correction and inclusion of the Moon’s secondary motion). I also particularly look forward to the choice of sidereal zodiac definitions, which will affect directions through the terms.

This is the software I will be recommending to my students.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and: it runs on Linux, Unix, Windows and MacOS platforms! (Though I have tested it only on Windows XP.)
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

It's quite a very good astrology program.

Thanks Rob! Thumbs up

I have a small request, and please accept my apologies if it sounds ungrateful:
can you adapt the appearance options to allow us to put a background image?

Thanks again.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Morinus: excellent primary directions software! Reply with quote

Martin Gansten wrote:
The calculations are, so far as I have had time to test them, absolutely correct; the range of choice is impressive; and there are promises of even more features for the next version, some of them, to the best of my knowledge, unique (such as lunar parallax correction and inclusion of the Moon’s secondary motion). I also particularly look forward to the choice of sidereal zodiac definitions, which will affect directions through the terms.

Thanks, this I wanted to know (that the calculations are absolutely correct). I've used Morinus for a few weeks (months?) now for primary directions, and it's handy, beautiful, free, and now I hear from a trusted expert that it's also correct! Applauds for the maker of the software Thumbs up . (Yes, we're waiting for the sidereal calculations, hopefully there's also Fagan/Bradley ayanamsa included.)
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Morinus: excellent primary directions software! Reply with quote

Papretis wrote:
Thanks, this I wanted to know (that the calculations are absolutely correct). I've used Morinus for a few weeks (months?) now for primary directions, and it's handy, beautiful, free, and now I hear from a trusted expert that it's also correct!

Just to be on the safe side, I should add that I downloaded Morinus only a day or two ago; so I can't strictly vouch for the correctness of earlier versions of the software, as it seems to be continually developing.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this information, Martin, the program sounds wonderful - and of course thank you Rob, for writing it and making it freely available to us!

Is anyone using Morinus on a Mac? The download instructions seem quite complex to me because I don't have much of a computer background - I don't mind sorting through complexities, I'm just afraid of making a mistake and not knowing how to fix it. Or starting a download incorrectly, and not being able to stop it. Is the download pretty straightforward once it starts?

If I'm reading the instructions correctly, it is not strictly necessary to download the Swiss ephemeris files, as the Moshier ephemeris files are already present.

Also, there are instructions for determining whether or not Python is installed on one's machine for the Windows and Linux systems, but not Mac (unless I missed it) - so perhaps I could just check my fonts for that information?
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello
Martin, thanks very much for this link, and many to thanks to "robert.pluto" for making it available.
Just a question for those of us who are not very computer-literate. I don't understand the difference between binary and source installations. The source installation seemed very complicated, so I just tried binary, which installed so quickly I thought something must have gone wrong. I didn't check to see if I had Python on my computer, etc. Morinus seems to work fine. I'm using Vista.
Have I proceeded in the right way?
Many thanks
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh...
I think I now understand. Binary means there's no installation, it just works direct from the source without installing. At any rate, it's now disappeared from my computer.
Graham
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Morinus Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks Martin for mentioning the program on this forum!
And, thanks Graham for sending me an email.
And finally: Thanks for your kind words!

To be honest I was thinking about stopping the development due to lack of interest(the features are enough for me ). Very Happy

I am planning to implement the syzygy and mundane LoF next.
Hopefully it won't take more than a month.

The selectable background is a good idea. I added it to my TODO list.
All the features that are mentioned on the webpage will be implemented gradually.

Yesterday I uploaded the program twice because of a bug in the minor dignities dialog.
About pyhton(binary source):
The binary is the compiled source but their speed is the same because this binary is not a real one.
Python is an interpreted language so it is slower than native windows(or linux programs) (like the Kolev-Placidus).
When you run the source it first compiles the source code to bytecode and this bytecode is executed by the operating system. This is why it takes a few second for the program to start at the first time. Next time you start the program doesn't need to compile the bytecode again because it didn't change.

I have no acces to MacOS so I can't tell you much about it. The source should work.
The nice thing is that if you run the source there is no need to compile(the python interpreter will of course create the bytecodes when the program is run for the first time.)

regards,
rob(the programmer)
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Morinus Reply with quote

rob wrote:
To be honest I was thinking about stopping the development due to lack of interest(the features are enough for me ). Very Happy

Please, on no account do that! Gobsmacked As Steven clearly points out, there really is no comparable software for us 'reactionaries'. Wink On the contrary, if you need any help with definitions, formulae, etc, just let me/us know.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steven wrote:
Rob,

If you ever feel motivated, the only thing I wish for "Christmas" ( Very Happy ) is that you's include the PoS in your directions! And if you ever are really ambitious, the Lot of Marriage (for men and women) and Father and Mother Very Happy I then wouldn't have to work at all Very Happy
Steven


Hi Steven,

Thanks!
I agree adding the arabian parts would be a good idea and wouldn't be difficult.
The only problem is: should there also(like LoF) be a formula selection for the rest of the arabian parts?

regards,
rob
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Morinus Reply with quote

Martin Gansten wrote:

Please, on no account do that! Gobsmacked As Steven clearly points out, there really is no comparable software for us 'reactionaries'. Wink On the contrary, if you need any help with definitions, formulae, etc, just let me/us know.


Hi Martin,

I have to admit that it is a good program Smile and it seems to be the best free program.
But it can't(and doesn't want to) compete with the top commercial programs(especially with Placidus 6.0 (I read Porphyrius Magus.pdf, it was really cool))

regards,
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sasha_i wrote:
Hello,

I have a small request, and please accept my apologies if it sounds ungrateful:
can you adapt the appearance options to allow us to put a background image?


Hi Sasha,

I thought about this feature and I think it should work:
just remove the Morinus.jpg from the Morinus/Res directory and copy your image there. It has to be a jpg and needs to be named Morinus. In other words:
The program loads the Morinus/Res/Morinus.jpg image as the background. It can even be a picture of you Very Happy .
I have never tested this but it should work.

regards,
rob
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that it's not working
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sasha_i wrote:
It appears that it's not working


I have just tried it and it worked.
the file need to be name Morinus.jpg, and it has to be a reel jpg.
If you just rename a xxx.gif to Morinus.jpg it won't work.
You have to convert the gif to jpg with a program.
I suggest using first a jpg (that is not too big).

rob
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