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Andrew Bevan



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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SusieN wrote:
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Isn't the Moon right on the South Node?? That would be a strong testimony against Rome.....

The lower the 4th falls, the more unexpected are the underdogs. I can't change my bet on this one anyhow - so I have to stick with Rome.. Confused

Taken the absolute freedom of choise and given that I only have 3 on the combination of Dynabo and Rome, and Dynamo have already won - and the combined odds are 58,5 : 1 - what would you have done? Increased the stake from 3 to 10, or taken the existing winnings (worth 19,5) and fled?? Question

This is an interesting question because it is similar to the issue of greed and fear that is a driving factor on the Stock markets. Exclamation
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SusieN,
RE Dynamo - I think that the Moon opposite the MC applying to a fortune in the 7th from the 4rth was deciding - although I was by no means certain.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew what can I say about the question of betting, other than this:

What you win on the slides, you lose on the round-abouts Very Happy

I wish you well for the Roma game.....
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpool have become the bookies' faves against Atletico which changes things a bit because I think the chart now looks better for Liverpool. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed though. I've had a small bet on Cluj who are playing at Bordeaux tonight with a similar chart to Chelsea/Roma.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chelsea - Rome 1-0

All paths do not go to Rome! Sad

But Madrid played a draw with Liverpool 1-1

And that match won me 75! Lala Happy
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was pleased that Liverpool got a draw. Interesting but unfortunate that Bordeaux/Cluj result was also 1-0, same as Chelsea/Roma.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chelsea - Rome 1-0

All paths do not go to Rome!


Blame it on the SN Thumbs down
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all seem to have decided to leave Tuesday's games alone, which was just as well in view of Saturn opposite Uranus. The sequence of underdog victories continue to persist.
Roma (Ita) - Chelsea (Eng) 3-1
Barcelona (Esp) - Basel (Sui) 1-1
Liverpool (Eng) - Atl.Madrid (Esp) 1-1
to mention a few...

I never experienced an aspect between outer planets create such disturbance before.. Shocked
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Bevan wrote:
We all seem to have decided to leave Tuesday's games alone, which was just as well in view of Saturn opposite Uranus. The sequence of underdog victories continue to persist.
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I never experienced an aspect between outer planets create such disturbance before.. Shocked


The Saturn - Uranus opposition is still in effect as the next round of games starts this week - separating but within 2 degrees. My initial scan of the charts for Tuesday 25th has Saturn as L7 in all of them (though my Solar Fire atlas doesn't think Russia or Turkey exist so I have been grappling with the concept of different timezones and those charts might need correcting).

The other thing about this weeks games is that Manchester United, and possibly Celtic, are being given what I would consider unrealistic odds by bookmakers. They make Villareal and United equal odds on two of the three sites I visited with Manchester favourites on the third. This is probably to offset the large amount of bets they expect to get for these two clubs from British fans.

I can live with Celtic as favourites but not sure about the Manchester United assignment yet. Shame because its an interesting chart by the look of things.

regs, Matt
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: A bad week for British clubs? Reply with quote

I have not had the time I would have liked to look at Tuesdays games but in summary (f) = Favourites:

Kiev to beat Arsenal (f) - only 1 testimony which is Moon sextile to L4 Venus

Lyon to beat Fiorentina (f) - as above though L1 is applying to the 7th cusp but over 3 degrees away so I've ignored it.

Villareal to beat Man Utd (f) - as above plus Pluto opposition to Fortunas Antiscion (just about) favouring the underdogs.

Fenerbahce (f) to beat Porto - tough one to weigh up. Busy chart. N Node is on 7th cusp and S Node on 1st which doesn't bode well but that Moon Venus aspect favours Fenerbahce this time and L4 Mars applying to oppose Fortunas Antiscia I will disregard as only L7 is mentioned in John Frawleys book as being decisive in this context.

Real Madrid, Bayern - favourites win but odds are way too low.

Aalborg v Celtic - can't make sense of this. Open to suggestions. If pressed I would say Moons trine to Fortunas Antiscion is final in favour of Celtic.

Zenit v Juve - no testimony at all unless you count Mercury being Cazimi. I predict the match will be abandoned in a St Petersburg snowstorm due to poor visibility.

Please feel free to point out any errors I may have made - I had a tough time working out how to timezone some of the charts.

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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Matt,

Here's a useful site to help you with time zones http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

I've had a look at some of the charts, but will just comment on one of them.

Fenerbahce/Porto, 21.45 EET, Istanbul, Asc 1310' Leo
Hour ruler is Venus so chart isn't radical. Moon is exactly square Asc which has proved favourable in the past for home/faves. It's a difficult one because Fenerbahce are at the bottom of their group table and have yet to win a game. Presumably they're faves because they have home advantage.

I hope you're wrong re Arsenal and ManU Very Happy I think it probably looks better for ManU than Arsenal but I couldn't really get a clear picture from either chart. I'm trying to decide which one to watch on TV tonight.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AaB Aalborg - Celtic 2-1
Villarreal - Man Utd 0-0
Bayern M - Steaua 3-0
Fiorentina - Lyon 1-2
Arsenal - Dynamo Kiev 1-0
Fenerbahce - Porto 1-2
Zenit - Juventus 0-0
BATE Borisov - Real Madrid 0-1

There were a few difficult games there. The draws were not easy, neither was the game between Aalborg and Celtic. 37,5% of the games ended with a home win. 25% of the games ended with a draw and 37,5% were won by the guests.

Matteus wrote:
Zenit v Juve - no testimony at all unless you count Mercury being Cazimi.

The astrology seems to have done so and so, but I am sure you were on to the draw in this match.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesdays games:

Liverpool (Eng) - Marseille (Fra), 19.45 GMT
Odds: 1,42 4,10 8,00
Asc 27CN43 MC 29PI19 Moon 25SC15 POF 18CN02
Day of Mercury, Hour of Moon Radical.
Moon VOC Scorpio = Liverpool
POF trine Uranus 18PI44

Atl.Madrid (Esp) - PSV Eindhoven (Ned), 19.45 GMT
Odds: 1,48 3,80 7,50
Asc 17CN36 MC 28PI33 Moon 25SC15 POF 7CN55
Day of Mercury, Hour of Mercury Not Radical
Venus 16CP44 opp Ascendant. STAY AWAY

Inter (Ita) - Panathinaikos (Gre), 19.45 GMT
Odds: 1,33 4,80 10,00
Asc 26CN46 MC 12AR34 Moon 25SC15 POF 17CN05
Hour of Moon Radical
Moon trine Asc, POF opp Venus, L4

I am just going safe this evening and setting up a duplet with Liverpool and Inter. Total odds 1,89:1. These two games seem to be the safest home matches. I think Liverpool will benefit from the Moon being in Scorpio and POF trine Uranus. Inter are playing at home with a radical chart and the Moon, Lady of the Hour, in trine to the Cancer ascendant. The Atl.Madrid chart seems to have some contradictions, therefore it seem like a good game to stay off unless going for something more speculative.

Sporting Lisboa - Barcelona, 19.45 GMT
Odds: 3,60 3,25 2,10
Asc 11CN56 MC 22PI35 Moon 25SC15 POF 2CN15
Played on the Day and Hour of Mercury - not radical.
Jupiter, L10, in the 7th in sextile to the MC.

This game attracts a fair price. It is worth discussing!
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Sporting/Barca
Although I gave up on the Part of Victory a long time ago, I couldn't help noticing that it is conj Desc in this chart. For lack of any other positive testimonies, it might be a chance to test it out again. If it doesn't help Barca, then it can go back on the scrap heap again!
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! I built up a triplet including Barcalona as the third match.
Total odds: 3,97:1

How do you calculate POV, Ficina?
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Bordeaux - Chelsea
Odds: 4,80 3,65 1,75
Asc 23CN02 MC 2AR00 Moon 25SC15 POF 13CN21
The hour is on the cusp of Mercury and the Moon. This match could be one of the evenings suprizes and is why I haven't touched it initially. It could be a draw. The hour being on the cusp of one hour to the next. Mars, L10, is not far from opposing the antiscia of the ascendant.
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