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Astrological use of the Via Lactea (Milky Way)

 
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Deb
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: Astrological use of the Via Lactea (Milky Way) Reply with quote

The traditional astrological use of the Via Combusta (Fiery Way) is commonly known, but I haven't come across many references to the astrological use of the Via Lactea and wondered if anyone can point me to additional quotes or comments. I noticed one in a passage from John Gadbury's Collection of Nativities (1662). It is on p.24 where he talks about the death of Henry II of France:

"Argol says, [symbol for Moon] platice opposita [symbol for Mars] & ambo in Via Lactea, quod oculis noceant.* I allow they are in the Milky Way both of them; but the Moon is not in Platique oppostion to Mars: howbeit, there are other dangerous testimonies without it."

* I don't read Latin, but I think this means "the Moon in a platick opposition to Mars, and both in the Via Lactera, brings hidden harm" or something very similar - if anyone can correct that, I will appreciate it.

In Gadbury's chart the Moon is at 23 Gem 16 and Mars is at 10 Sag 43, so having separated by 12.33 degrees they are outside the limits of their combined 'platick' orb of 9.30 degrees.

One of the reasons I'm curious to learn more about this is because the idea of the 'milky way' being ascribed an astrological meaning in the same way that the 'fiery way' is adds support to the argument that the Via Combusta was originally a group of fiery harmful stars and its location would have shifted over time rather than being attached to a specific region of the zodiac. But I'm also just generally curious so welcome any comments or thoughts.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sibly mention Via Lactea on pg 253, vol.1 of his 'New and Complete Illustration of the celestial science of Astrology".

The paragraph reads:
"The Sun or Moon in Via Lactea, afflicted with the conjunction, quartile, or opposition, of Saturn and Mars, or with nebulous stars, portends blindness, if both luminaries are afflicted; if only the Sun be afflicted, it is the right eye, if the Moon the left. The same if the Moon be in conjuntion, quartile, or opposition, with Sol or Saturn, with nebulous stars, or if Sol be in conjunction with Mars in the eighth."

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andrew - although my ideas about the Via Combusta have shifted over the last 3 years, it is good to get a response on this. It still intrigues me.

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Later edit - adding a link to a more recent thread discussing the significance of this in the chart of king Henry II of France, and whether it contributed to the warning of an accident that could cause blindness or death:

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4569&start=2

And a reference to its capacity for injury in Richard Saunder's 'Judgement of Physic':

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4569&start=3
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