It's also interesting that it's an old foreign (renault is french) brand, because Jupiter is involved in that way too (since it's in the 3rd), and it rules foreign places. Good!

Hi, you might be interested that I have elaborated on a very ancient technique of Monomoiria - degree rulership, in my essay with which I conlcuded my studies of horary with Olivia Barclay. The essay was published in form of an article a few years ago in the AA Journal. There are very few available ancient sources on the technique (Greek astrologers seem to have used it, among them Vettius Valens for example). The technique is such: the first degree of every sign (0 - 1) is ruled by the planet which rules the whole sign, the rest follow according to the Chaldean order, like, for example, in Virgo, rulership goes as follow: Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars etc. According to this technique Saturn is upon its own degree (Saturn) in your case. As I have shown in my essay, it seems that the planet which disposits a certain degree, tells more about the planet placed upon that degree, as well as about the general concern of the horary chart - that is, in horary charts. (The system has other uses in other charts, natal for example). Here, Saturn upon its own degree would accentuate the 3rd house concern since 3rd house has its cusp in Capricorn. It would also accentuate the "oldness" of the car, as well as its "sturdiness" perhaps, since Saturn is not afflicted. Jupiter which co-rules the car is, incidentally, also upon Saturn's degree. I think, however, that Jupiter must co-rule the car simply by its placement in the 3rd and that's what suggests a foreign (Jupiter) brand, whereas Saturn rulership of the degree would suggest that it's an OLD foreign brand. I didn't want to bring in monomoiria sooner because I didn't want to complicate matters. besides, the system has not been sufficiently researched on my part to be able to draw really definite conclusions by its use. It turns out, however, that this is becoming a very creative thread

As for that Serbian astrologer's technique, I know of it but don't think much of it. How can degrees be ruled by signs, tell me? All the rulership systems have planets ruling certain portions of the zoidac, not signs. Besides, as far as I remember, he "proves" the validity of the technique so that he takes a natal chart (for example, I think that this is exactly the example he gives on his page) and says this and this person has the 3rd cusp on an Aries degree, so his car is red. I mean, cusps of houses are a very "fleeting" thing, they change so rapidly, and what do we do with the fact that there are so many house systems, and that it's very possible with every birth that the given time of birth is a few minutes off. And what will he say when the guy buys himself a blue car next time... You see what I mean

How can degrees be ruled by signs, tell me? All the rulership systems have planets ruling certain portions of the zoidac, not signs

Hi, you might be interested that I have elaborated on a very ancient technique of Monomoiria - degree rulership, in my essay with which I conlcuded my studies of horary with Olivia Barclay. The essay was published in form of an article a few years ago in the AA Journal.

It turns out, however, that this is becoming a very creative thread

I just read about Nikola Stojanovic,

http://www.astrologyinserbia.com/e/index.html - and his way to finetune

horaries.

... At the next moment, the fellow astrologer produced his wife?s birth chart. I only asked him if that chart was precise, and having obtained the affirmative answer and studied it for some ten seconds, I told him the following: ?Your wife called a carpenter to the house and ordered a larger bed to be made. When the carpenter had finished the job, you went to bed and realized that the work was not properly done. One measure was right ? the bed was long enough - but the other one wasn't ? the bed wasn't wide enough, it was still narrow?.

The amazed look on the fellow astrologer?s face told me that this brief analysis was absolutely correct. How had I come to such correct details? Sleeping and everything in connection with it ? a bed, a bedroom - is described in the 12th house of the horoscope. The cusp of the 12th house of my colleague?s wife begins at the 21st degree of Aries, and the ruler of that house, Mars, is at the 6th degree of Virgo.

According to my theory, the 21st degree has the symbolic of Sagittarius (like 9?), and Aries symbolizes to make, to create. So, his wife wanted to make (Aries) a larger (21? ? Sagittarius ? Jupiter ? to enlarge) bed (the 12th house).

As Mars, the ruler of the 12th house, is placed in Virgo (someone who renders services, a worker), she called the carpenter to the house. However, her Mars was in Virgo and, moreover at Virgo degree (6?), and taking into consideration that Virgo symbolizes diminishing, making smaller, one measure of the bed had to be smaller than needed.

Therefore, the cusp of the 12th house (the bed) at the 21st degree (Sagittarius ? larger, longer) tells us that the bed was long enough (enlarged), and Mars in Virgo, at Virgo degree (6?) that it was not wide enough, i.e. it was narrow.

Yes, I had to stop to due the motor running dry and over-heating half way up the mountain. Mars in Virgo in the 1st house. This effected the cooling system, Saturn in Pisces on the 8th, but we made it! Laughing