Football Predictions 17-31 January 2008 1 by Ficina Second half starts here. Good luck everybody Quote Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:49 pm
2 by john Do we have the following matches coming up: Newcastle v Bolton. 19/1/08 17.15 As 10 Leo Wigan v Everton 20/1/08 13.30 As 25 Gem Man C v West Ham (again) 20/1/08 As 26 Can Liverpool v Aston Villa 21/1/08 As 7 Virgo I think the Watford game in the Championship may also have an individual kick-off time. I've not yet had the chance to consider the 1st ManC v WHU game, I assume the comments can be put on this thread, to assist with the hierarchy of considerations. Whilst I am having a go at predicting timing of goals and the correct score, I'm not sure whether I am predicting the correct score or the margin of the result, e.g. 1-0, 2-1, 3-2, etc. If I actually get anywhere with this, this issue may become clearer. There is also the question of draws. Looking back at previous threads do I understand that if neither team appears to have an advantage predictions are defaulting to draws. If others are considering this criteria, I may try and go down the Castle Beseigement route of seeing if a Chart should default to a draw regardless of the respective strengths of a particular team. Again, I may scrap this thought process as draw charts come along. Quote Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:18 am
3 by Andrew Bevan Although scoring goals is essential for a winning a game, I would be quite happy with being able to determine the winner, or draw, before the actual number of goals either way. But I think that the two studies are connected, so we should be able to link the two together. Do we need to divide some of the tasks within the group? We seem to be doing alright, but there is quite a lot of work some time. I think I want to contribute be adding the relationship between the planetary hour, the radical ascendant and it's lord. Maybe lunations, too. Charts that look obvious but don't work out as expected, intrigue me. There must be an explaination as to what is going on and a detail that we have missed. Someone might want to define the word 'default', as well. What does it take to reach this state or quality. And Arsenal are do longer default (?) What has changed? Movements within the league are pretty important. Prehaps a league is like a ship. The ascendant is for the team at the top, the descendant is Derby. http://www.astronor.com Quote Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:09 am
4 by Gem The ascendant is for the team at the top, the descendant is Derby Or bottom teams can get buried in the 4th... John This is where I get domestic fixtures: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... efault.stm Quote Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:28 am
5 by Andrew Bevan Fridays game between Hartlepool and Cheltenham. 19.45 GMT The odds are: 1.73 3.50 4.40 Now I have difficulty finding testemony of either team winning. The game starts in the hour of Venus, the chart is not radical and the lady of the hour agrees more with the Pisces descendant, where she has her exaltation. But looking at it another way, Venus, lady of the hour is L10 and intercepted in the 4th. Could this match possibly end a draw? There is the Moon in the 10th applying to a trine with her dispositor Mercury, L1, but the aspect is wide, Mercury cadent and the aspect cast through signs of short ascension. Will this do it for Hartlepool? http://www.astronor.com Quote Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:09 pm
6 by Ficina You're right, this chart tells us absolutely nothing. Cheltenham have a terrible away record, so I guess Hartlepool, the odds-on faves, win by default. Quote Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:01 pm
7 by Andrew Bevan Newcastle - Bolton, Jan 19. - 17.15 GMT Odds: 1.75 3.35 4.85 Could this chart provide a draw? The match starts in the hour of Mercury, which does not agree with the either the radical ascendant or its lord. I am experimenting with the idea that this moves victory away from the favourite. Newcastle are favourites by odds and playing home. The lord of the ascendant is the Sun, who is in his own face and in a position to save it, but cadent in the 6th and VOC. Saturn, L7, is in mr with Mercury, located in the 7th - but does nothing much else. Mercury is sextile the MC, which is located in his terms. The Moon's first application is to Venus, who is lady of the 4th, hence the contest provides no victor. http://www.astronor.com Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:19 pm
8 by Ficina Testimonies for Newcastle Moon conj Mars (L10) Testimonies for Bolton Moon opp Venus (L4) Moon sextile antiscion Saturn (L7) We have an opportunity to test out one of JF's aphorisms, namely that bodily conjunctions are usually final. (NB "usually") This would indicate a win for Newcastle. Although there are two testimonies for Bolton, one of them is minor. The aspects indicate that Bolton should score one or possibly two goals. I'll go for 3-2 Newcastle. Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:55 pm
9 by john Is it possible to get astrolgers block? It sounds as if all of us aren't getting much out of any of the charts. Newcastle-Bolton Newcastle home and favourites are the ascendant. I get nothing for the colours. I can understand why Andrew has gone for a draw. I'll try a different approach and prediction. Bolton win. Newcastle sun, void. Sun in its own face but in saturns sign and terms. Bolton are saturn. Mutual Rec with mercury, in 7th house. Saturn trine jupiter. Saturn retrograde. Jupiter in fall.!? Moon opposes venus. Venus is in saturn's terms and saturn is in venus's terms. (Moon is also in saturns terms and suns face!!!!) There appears to be an empahsis of saturn in reception and terms. If this has any weight then Bolton win. Whether South node in Leo has an influence would also sway me to Bolton. Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:57 pm
10 by Gem I have nothing to add testimony-wise, except the Part of Success in exact trine to the Sun. I'm going for NC but not as brave as Ficina to predict the score Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:43 pm
11 by Ficina Brave or foolish? I'm still doing the Guardian competition where I have to predict scores for all 10 EPL games, so I went for 3-2 there. Wigan v Everton Who gets the Asc? Everton are faves but not odds-on. I'm confused over colours. Anyone got any ideas? I'm tempted to give Wigan the Asc, in which case: Testimonies for Wigan Mercury (L1) conj MC Moon sextile Saturn (L10) Antiscion Moon conj Asc Testimonies for Everton Moon opp Jupiter (L7) [Antiscion Jupiter conj Desc - cadent and 3 degs away, so iffy] Everton should score, so I'm going for 2-1 Wigan - that's assuming they're the Asc Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:11 pm
12 by Andrew Bevan Anyone notice how the North node changing sign (mean) affected Arsenals dominance of the default top? By the way, I haven't got any money on the table regarding the matches being discussed at the moment. There are some wonderful default games this evening and through the weekend. Le Havre - Libourne-St Seurin Mons AEC - Club Brugge Paris FC - Pau Excelsior Rotterdam - Feyenoord Wrexham - Milton Keynes Swansea City - Port Vale Fulham - Arsenal Reading - Manchester United Portsmouth - Derby County , among my favourites... http://www.astronor.com Quote Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 pm