A Comment on the NFL Playoffs

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For those interested, the San Diego at Indianapolis game started at 1:05:30 PM EST, and the Giants at Dallas game at 3:46:30 CST.

It is interesting that in the Giants game the Moon is clearly a Dallas planet, is in the 10th house, exactly square the Ascendant, and apparently was of no help to the Cowboys! By Frawley the Giants won because of SA-0-POF and the antision of R7-180-MA. There were only a few midpoints active in this chart. I noted MO-0-PL/ASC (Giants) and MC-0-MO/NE (Giants). In addition, the ruler of the Giants 10th (ME) is closely bracketed by JU/MC and JU/UR. However, ME and JU are the rulers for both teams, so this probably contributed to an exciting game.

The result of the San Diego-Indianapolis game is, IMHO, inexplicable without reference to the midpoints. The only Frawley factor present is R5(SU)-0-MC, and that isn't really a FF, altho I think it has some meaning. The following midpoints are activated:
R1-180-MO/SA (Giants); R7_180-VE/JU (Giants, but separating); MC=NE/PL (Giants); and R4(MO)-0-ME/ASC (Giants). There is also SU/SA-0-DSC, which might work for the favorites. However, both the Sun and Saturn are favorite planets, so perhaps it should be written SU/SA-180-ASC. In any event it is over adegree from the Dsc, so it's not too strong. Perhaps it prevented a rout!

This is the only chart I have seen so far where the outcome can only be determined by the use of midpoints.

I invite your comments.

Bob

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Hello BulletBobb,

Thank you for your very thorough and thoughtful postings regarding sports prediction. I was inspired to join this forum by your posts.

I've been enriched by studying traditional astrology the last year. Thus, I anticipated Frawley's sports book with great interest. It certainly is a fine book. Many thanks to Mr. Frawley for his informative and fun work. His event charts are clearly the most interesting to me, as someone who enjoys predicting sports on a daily basis. I set out to test his methods with realtime predictions on all sporting events around the world. I simultaneously found a blog to record these wagers at blogabet.com. This is a very nice tool - a blog focused on sports bets, because it allows one to have a record of their actual predictions before the game, it's verified by actual sportsbook odds, and keeps statistics on your results. If you're going to do it for real, you have to be accountable.

I registered there (it's free) and started posting games after reading Frawley's book. I also made a complete list of his rules on a sheet for reference. Every prediction there has been made utilizing his event chart rules. I've decided to follow his rules explicitly for at least the first few months. There's so many ideas floating around with astro sports prediction, that you'll never know how you're doing unless you keep things the same for a good stretch. I encourage anyone serious about this to sign up there, or another site like it. This way you won't fool yourself into thinking you know more than you do. You'll have a clear record how you're doing and a reference for yourself and others to view if you so choose. It took me a bit to figure it out but it's easy after that.

I've been doing NBA, NHL, college basketball, international soccer, and more, simply testing things out. As most games start between 6-8 pm local time around the globe, the charts for a whole day's sporting event globally aren't that different.

I run through most all of the NBA, NCAAB, NHL and some soccer games most days as time permits. Otherwise I'll stick to one league or a few games only. I'll quickly type in all the charts and see what the trends are. At first it was cumbersome, but as I became more seasoned, I got the hang of it and can enter data and interpret quickly now.

For instance, if it's a day where antiPOF is close to an angle, then I'll try to find the game in the set that has this the closest to the specific start time. Or if a ruling planet bodily or anti is near an angle, I'll find the game that geograpically gives the best positioning. Clearly on a night with 10 NBA games for example, many will be almost identical charts. 6 Eastern Time games all start within 30 minutes of each other, so charts aren't that different. I then try to find one that is the ?best?.

But the ?best? then depends on the game and that's where betting strategy comes in. The ?best? game may be showing Phoenix winning over Seattle. But if Phx is favored by 12 points, that's hardly worth anything betting it straight (simply betting Phx to win the game). You'll wager 10 and get back 12. The challenge then becomes when to bet the moneyline, and when to bet the spread (meaning betting Phx to win by 12 points or more, with roughly even odds, meaning you wager 10 and get back 20. I know you know this bobb but clarifying it for others who may be less sure). If you bet Phx -12, and they win 100-90, then well, they won the game, so the chart was ?right?, but you lost the bet. Small consolation. Or if you find a chart that bodes well for the underdog, do you take the points or go for the bigger profit by betting on the underdog to win the game outright? That is of course part of the challenge.

Of course as bulletbobb has mentioned, Frawley's method is time-sensitive. A 5 minute delay in start time can push the ascendant or POF another degree and render it ?out of effective range?. For the record, I've found NHL games start 7-8 minutes after scheduled time. NBA games start 10-15 minutes after. NFL afternoon games started about 3 minutes after. Night NFL games seem to be more like 10-15 minutes later. So you're much better off putting in your chart time later for US sports than the exact time. Football games (soccer) internationally may start closer to the actual listed time. I usually add a few minutes for these.

This can be reviewed by going to a couple websites. The NHL has the best record-keeping, believe it or not. For those so inclined, they have an ?Event Summary? for every game all year long that lists exact start and end times. Simply go to nhl.com, click on a current or old game, and choose ?Event Summary?. The NFL also has these stats at nfl.com by clicking on old games, and going to ?Game Book?. These can serve as excellent research tools for the serious student. Especially NFL games, as every game has more import and much more interest than a typical NHL game.

By the way, it appears MLB and NBA keep NO records of start times. Only the length of the game. This is unfortunate and surprising, especially as baseball games are statistician's dreams. I've written emails to these leagues asking them to consider adding this.

My strong hunch, like most of you have stated or insinuated, is that the bigger the game, the more intent or psychological interest associated with the event, and thus the more effective astro is at prediction. But to wager succesfully every day, it would be favorable to still find methods that allow us to have an edge using these methods. Perhaps choosing the national nightly televised games may help in this regard vs a non-televised game between two lowly teams for example.

I've found, like Frawley, that antiPOF and ruling planet location are the strongest indicators so far. I've actually not had much luck with final moon aspects. But I do consider them in the final bet review. I obviously like to only bet the games that have all signs pointing to one team, or at least 1-2 of the strongest signs. I have some ideas about the outer planets and other points but need more data.

By the way, I started winning the first 10 games in a row, and naturally thought this method was fantastic. I've since gone quite cold, but I've also made a number of mistakes along the way. I've entered wrong cities (like for Japanese women's basketball games, whoops!, hey I tried...) and made multiple bets on one game (note ? stick with 1 bet per chart. That way you won't magnify any interpretation goofs). I'll probably keep to soccer and US games from now on to keep errors to a minimum. I've made a few bets on very high and unlikely odds (from 5-1 to 11-1) which didn't work. I've also guessed the start times incorrectly as some games were quite delayed, and that of course likely reduced the effectiveness of the method. Taking those out, I'm even. There have been a few very nice wagers as well though. So I think there's plenty of room for improvement and a decent shot at this working. My blog is videohero.blogabet.com .

In essence I think using this method serves best as a good filter. I wouldn't always take the bets simply by the chart alone, but if they fall ok in line with a decent odds bet or in line with your other handicapping methods, then it adds to that strength and is worth it.

I enjoy reading all the alternative ideas such as reviewing teams' natal charts, midpoints, etc. Other ideas may include dividing the game into 1st half start and 2nd half start. But this is impossible for games you cannot view and not practical.

I am in complete agreement with Frawley on this point... I don't want to spend ages reviewing what bets to make! The key is efficient, effective simplicity. It takes enough time sussing through multiple NBA or soccer charts for one evening to find the best plays. I'm sure not going to try to add natal charts to the mix!

I will post more in time but I've written enough for now already. Good luck!

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Hallelujah!

Can it be that I have finally stumbled on someone who has a serious interest in sports betting?

I have to confess that there is an ulterior motive behind my occasional posts to this and a few other sites: I have been hoping that someone with a serious interest in the subject would see them and we could open a dialogue for our mutual benefit. I have felt for many years that sports betting offers many unique advantages as an investment area, or even as a means of making a living. It has got to be easier than trying to beat the stock market, and you don't have to wait months to see if your choice was the right one. Instant gratification! Plus, there are the tax advantages.

Your approach seems to have been more widespread than mine. I've focused on football until a week ago, and have now shifted to basketball. I suppose there might be some advantage to sampling sports from around the world, but I can't believe they will be any easier to beat than what we have here in the US. Focus is a good thing, I think.

Your info about the exact times at the NHL and NFL sites is valuable. I had discovered that the SI.com also has most NFL times, and also has US soccer times. But alas!, no times for baskets or bases. I know of sites that have scheduled times for football and basketball going back many years. Haven't found any for baseball, however. It might be necessary to see if some newspaper or baseball magazine prints a schedule for the year in one issue. Other than that it's the newspapers! The NY Times is quite good for that sort of thing, and almost all libraries have it on microfilm going back many years.

I am timing NBA games, and the great majority start at 11 minutes after the half hour. I found the same thing 20 years ago when I did this for the first time. I have found a few games on TNT which are quite different. Have to watch that.

I am very curious to know which of Frawley's factors you have found to be valid and which not. As I have posted previously, I find no evidence whatsoever to support Frawley's ideas on the Moon, at least in American football. Another important issue is what to do with the Moon VOC. He mentions it in Ch. 1 of his book, but not in Ch.2. I have some sports astrology tapes from an old AFA convention in which one of the speakers says it favors the dogs, and the other say the favorites! Doesn't do much to build confidence in those individuals and their systems. For example, one of the speakers was asked when the games started, and he said the NFL was quite reliable (true), and the games started about 4-5 minutes after the scheduled time (not true 20 years ago and not true today). This may sound like a small matter, but if these guys can't take the time to watch the start of a few games to get an accurate fix on when they start then I wonder how much one can rely on anything else they say.

BTW, where are you? I'm in Connecticut.

I'm going to stop now for a bit as I have something else to do. I'll comment on the rest of your post later today.

Regards,

Bob

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Well, here I am again.

You made a few comments about what Frawley calls the emminence factor. I wonder. As I recall, many of the NFL playoff charts weren't all that dynamic, and there are some regular game charts that are quite energetic. I think it depends alot on how the cosmos gets aligned when the game is played. Here's the thing: Frawley refers to these charts as event charts. I disagree. An event chart, to me at least, is a chart for something that happens spontaneously, like a traffic accident. There is nothing spontaneous about a football game. They are planned months in advance by a committee in New York City. Therefore, I think these charts are properly called inceptional charts. The wonder is that they show anything at all. That may be a distinction without a difference, but my point is that I suspect that you can find plenty of games played at 7:41 pm that are exciting, and others played as standalone games Monday night that are quite dull. Look at the recent Rosebowl game: I watched half of it and turned it off. Alot of Superbowls are like that, too. Maybe their emminence gives their charts more predictive power, but they certainly aren't any more dynamic, astrologically speaking.

I think Frawley's idea may stem from two things. The first is that he is in a very small country, where many charts are probably very similar, much more so that 'over here'. And secondly, because he is trying to call the game using astrology alone. I know from my readings in stock market astrology that astrology alone can't be used as a standalone system for beating the market. I have to wonder what effect the introduction of standard sports handicapping techniques would have on Frawley's ability to differentiate between a number of games with similar charts.

Another point to keep in mind is that while Frawley may have trouble, with his system, separating games with similar charts, it may be that other systems could do the job quite nicely. Perhaps you have read my posts on the use of Sophia Mason's diurnal chart method. I also have material on her game chart system, which is quite different than Frawley's. What may be murky in one may be quite clear in the other.
I have material on about 4 or 5 different (more or less) systems, and it it interesting that only Frawley raises the question of the emminence factor. It's hard to believe these other people weren't aware of it. A whole stack of similar charts are hard to miss. I wonder why it didn't seem to bother them?

You made a few comments about natal charts. I think these use of a system like Mason's is very helpful because it gives an independant view of the game. It can be used to confirm the Frawley chart, or perhaps it might indicate a play when Frawley's method has nothing. Most importantly, it completely bypasses the vexed question of who goes in the first house. You may be comfortable betting $10 on the indications of one chart, but if I'm going to bet hundreds then I would want a second opinion!

Regards,

Bob

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Hi Bob,

I'm in AZ. Regarding your point about the "emminence factor"... I did a lot of work with remote viewing in the early 2000s and applied it to predicting sports games. It worked quite well. You can see my method at futurearv.com .

The challenge with that is it's very taxing mentally. Cool in that it works for any binary question there is, but not practical to do every day. When I did, effect would drop off. It was best about two times a week, doing 2 sets of 12 events per question (read my site and you'll see what I mean).

My experience from that also taught me that events of greater focus by more people seem to be better predicted. And the closer I ran my trials to the event time, the more effective. Possibly something to do with the amount of free will still in play depending on length of time left before the event start time (assuming linear time). I'm not going to get all metaphysical and esoteric here, that's a different focus. And woo-woo talk won't put profits in your pocket with predictions. The point I'm trying to make is I give credence to this effect.

But as long as we're doing major sports events that may not be a factor.
That's why I'm building up lots of game predictions on the blog in different sports to see just that. That's assuming I have decent skill in utilizing the Frawley method and applying it appropriately. I'm trying my best to keep it consistent for a while and see where it leads me.

I do not think there is any holy grail, some magic point on the chart which will give us a 80% hit rate. I'm looking for predictions where the charts give one clear signal, and then the point spread or odds give at least a neutral to favorable play as well with that same team. So I also use a filter method, or second opinion as you write.

I read through the diurnal chart method in your earlier post and will start using this immediately to compare. I am not comfortable betting $10 on one chart alone either and am in agreement that more than 1 distinct methodology factor pointing to the same choice is best. By the way, if you mean a $10 bet because of the "10" stake of my blog, that's simply a generic unit. I bet the same amount on every game for consistency.

What I currently do is roughly this:

1) Look at the NBA/NHL/whatever league games for the day.
sbrlines.com and click Odds.

In virtually every prediction, I'm not using ANY game that has a spread less that 3 points. Too close to decide who gets what otherwise. Unless the favorite is the away team, I may make an exception, since the home team usually gets 2-3 points of spread cushion.

2) Do the charts for those games. See if there's going to be obvious lord rulers dominating a cusp. Check the moon placement, check AntiFortuna. Check moon aspects to planets bodily and antiscia. Ideally I want zero items pointing to the team I'm not picking and everything pointing to the one that I am. It seems so far when the moon aspects do work, it's more likely to L1 and L7 than L10 and L4. Quincunx angles are likely working too. I don't like calling it a major aspect but may reconsider if enough charts point that way. I have too much going on right now to focus on midpoints, but will consider those later. One thing at a time, otherwise it's a waste of time.

3) Also check the sbr matchup page for the game and see if anything stands out in favor of the OPPOSITE team I'm picking. I don't want to see anything in the numbers that hesitates my wager. So I try and find the best of the astro chart lot for the night in conjunction with the handicapping stats. Other serious sports bettors have their own standard (non-astro) handicapping methods. If all is clear, I'll make the bet.

I believe in finding an edge and then going for quantity, max it out with as many events as possible. If you're only going for one league and one game every day or few when everything lines up perfectly, I think it puts too much pressure on those individual games to be correct. Then again, if you knew those games you isolated were going to be 75% solid choices, then all the better.

I'll write more about specific games with detailed chart examples in the next few days. Good luck!