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Tracey



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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Where is Splodge the Dog Reply with quote

Hi there,

If you are interested in doing an horary, here is a little challenge. I correctly guessed the dog's location - see if you can!

Where is Splodge the Dog?
20 Nov 2007
4:39pm
175E01 40S55
Raumati Beach, Wellington
New Zealand
Asc 14 Aries 41; MC 17 Cap 07

Splodge the dog went missing from a yard that was completely fenced. Since there was no way for it to escape, how was it that it disappeared into thin air just moments after being checked.

Can you tell:

Where we found the dog?
Who owned the dog?
Was the owner there?
How long was he missing?
Even what colour it was!

The chart speaks for itself and I wasted no time looking up books at the time but since it was such a great horary to post I had fun confirming everything with Mr. Lilly's chapter on Beasts or strays.


Any techniques and flights of imagination are welcome!



Tracey Leery


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Deb
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tracey

I don't have much time to comment this week, but if you confirm the time zone and ascendant I'll add the chart into this thread. It seems like an interesting challenge.
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Tracey



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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Deb,

Yes, it's New Zealand Summertime.... -13:00.

Asc 14 Ar 41
MC 17 Cap 07

I am not sure how to post charts on line.

Thanks!
Tracey
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Draco



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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tracey.

I'll have a go. I only had a quick look.

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Where we found the dog?


The significator of the dog is Mercury peregrine in Scorpio upon the eighth cusp. Scorpio upon the eight might suggest drains or drainage, and perhaps still pools of water, ponds. However, given the partile aspect between the ascendant ruler and the significator of the dog, and that Mercury is in strong dignities of Mars, it suggests that the dog is aware of the owner, but the owner is not aware of the dog. Perhaps the dog was shadowing the owner all along, or appeared camoflage against some background in the yard, as the eighth cusp does not behold the ascendant, the querent cannot see the dog, but the significators are aspected by trine so the contact none the less still exists between them. The dog was never really lost, and the dog is aware of the owner.

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Who owned the dog?


You didn't say, so I decided that it would make sense if the person who asked the question was the owner of the dog, on account of the fact that Mercury, the dog, is in strong dignities of Mars, the ascendant ruler, showing where the dog's loyalties lie.

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Was the owner there?


If the querent was the owner of the dog then yes, given the partile aspect between significators.

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How long was he missing?


Not very long, he ought to have been found rather soon given the partile aspect between the ascendant ruler and Mercury, and also that the Moon is void of course, suggesting that the dog wasn't really 'lost' as such, which is why nothing came of it. None the less, the nest thing that the Moon does is to enter the domicile of Mars, and so the missing dog enters into the awareness of the querent.

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Even what colour it was!


Red. Mercurys colour is adaptable and he takes upon the deep red of Scorpio, the partile aspect of Mars also emphasises red, perhaps Cancer softening the shade a little, but I'd say it was a gingery colour.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tracey

Just posted an image of the chart in the opening post. This uses Regio house cusps.

Cheers
Deb
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Tracey



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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Draco,

Thanks for giving it a go! I won't give too much away - will post more in a few days - however, I had better put you on the right track by saying that the owner of the dog is not the querant. You have given very, very accurate information but the clue to ownership lies in Mars' house position - that's why I dropped the hint about the owner's whereabouts (which is probably easy for me to say knowing the answer as I do!) You will see how Mercury ties in very neatly. If you have a programme that the gives you the horary information such as Arabic Parts, you will discover what the owner was doing at the time.

Have fun!
Tracey
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Tracey



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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd let you know how this worked out. Thanks Draco, you did very well.

BACKGROUND: Our immediate next door neighbour was called away to a sudden funeral. She asked our 13-year old daughter to walk and feed her six-to-seven month old black Labrador puppy during her absence. The neighbour had left two bowls of water at the rear side of her house but placed a can of dog food and leash on the porch at the front. Upon returning home from school, the girl dutifully attended to the task. Since the house was right next door, all she had to do was walk up a small bank and she was there. Looking over the gate of the fenced yard to check that all was well, the dog growled at her. Having taken the dog for walks on other occasions, she knew that this was just a reaction so she went in, patted it and then went back out to get the leash. Having closed the gate behind her there was no way the dog could have got out so imagine her horror when she returned to find that the dog had mysteriously vanished into thin air. She searched all around the house, out on the street and alongside the creek before returning home frightened, puzzled and mortified that she had lost the dog. Of course, this created a flurry of lectures about being responsible and of possibly leaving the gate open and after swearing black and blue that she had closed it, her father, mother and brother helped her search the small, compact garden to no avail. Not believing the girl and scolding her for her carelessness, daughter, brother and father set off in the car to scour the neighbourhood. When they couldn’t find it anywhere, they returned home and rang the local dog pound just in case it was sited roaming the streets. All sorts of scenarios of sobbing children and dead dogs were conjured up and when nothing else could be done, the question was asked “Where is Splodge the Dog?”

SIGNIFICATORS: Day ruler is Mars, Hour ruler is the Sun. Aries is on the Ascendant showing the girl in a state of agitation and rushing around. Mars squares Venus exactly depicting the conflict at home. Ruler of the querant’s 2nd, this also shows that the dog was in the girl’s possession. Gemini is on the cusp of the Third of the neighbour, Mercury is in the 8th in Scorpio conjunct the part of short journeys. The 8th also represents her pet – 6th from 3rd. Conjunct the part of short journeys in the 8th shows that the neighbour had to travel overnight to attend a funeral and would return within the day. With Aries representing the querant and Scorpio on the cusp of the neighbour’s turned 6th, the significators for the dog and the querant are the same and this shows also that the dog had been in her care.

OUTCOME: With the significator of the dog and querant in moveable/Cardinal Cancer - this horary was solved very quickly – within 11 minutes. Seeing that Mars was in the Third House of the neighbour and very close to the boundary of the 4th House, it could be immediately deduced that the dog was still there in the yard! How? where? - it seemed improbable because the yard was very small and there were no bushes or dark places for the dog to hide in. In Cancer, a water sign, we looked for somewhere where there was water and, with Mars being so close to the cusp of the 4th and the Moon near the 12th House cusp, we needed to look around the perimeter of the neighbour’s yard. Scorpio on the 8th and the Moon in Pisces in the 12th indicated that it was in a dark, damp place. How could this be when the garden was so sunny and flat? We went to the only place where water could be located and this was near the dog’s bowl. Finding a hose nearby, we followed the hose to where it was attached to a tap at the side of the house. Lo and behold, there was a small entrance to the basement of the house. Straight away it became obvious that the half-grown puppy had got scared and had run to hide under the house!! Two minutes later, the tail of the dog could be seen. The boundary issue could be seen by the very small gap between the side of the house where the gap and tap were and the fence adjoining the next property on the south side.

REFERENCES: William Lilly says on page 326 of Christian Astrology of Beasts stolen or strayed that “if the Lord of the house of the Moon, or Lord of the second do separate from their own houses (if the goods be fixed) it is stolen; if moveable, fled of his own accord” – the dog ran to hide. He also says on page 325 “In Pound or not: for the most part Lord of the twelfth or sixth in the twelfth or sixth, they are kept close” On page 325, he says under “Another Judgement: watery signs, in water, or under the earth, a pavement, foundation of houses etc”.

On the same page, he goes on to say under “In what place they are: If the Lord of the sixth be in an angle, the Beasts be of small growth and in Pounds, Closes or houses.”

On page 327 “In what ground they be: If the Lord of the sixth be in moveable signs, they are in hilly ground”. The neighbour’s house sits on a small hill overlooking the reserve and island. It is located in a south-westerly position.

On page 54, he assigns the colour of the dog - black - to the 6th House.
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